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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:16 am

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Well there is one thing we can both agree on and that is your posted comment "and when I was in law enforcement".
One thing for sure I can see why you are no longer in law inforcement.
And to think I was  probably alive when you were in law inforcement. Lord what a scary thought.
Who ever you are you are really making a fool out of your self. You do know people read this don't you?
If I were in law inforcement I sure would be glad when you locked your lips because you are making all of them look quite bad.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:22 am

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A lot can be done at and learned from the library.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:39 am

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I know in all the years I have gone to the library I have learned alot of things.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 04:16 am

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Beenaround:
Hate to be the one to break the bad news to you, but you are just as bad as anyone. So don’t go getting all self righteous on us here. Personally I have seen quite a few politicians put up a front during my life time. They try and act all clean but when you start to check  them out some times you  find that they are not as clean as they act. I think that if all voters would do some checking before they step into the ballot box we would all be allot better off.
All I have stated on this  site is the truth. I was handed the three sheets of reprimands and before I jumped completely off the cliff I checked Burkhalters reprimands and I checked Hulsey’s reprimands. I found that what was printed at the top of the three sheets was absolutely the truth.  Personally I do not know Steve Hulsey nor do I know sheriff Burkhalter.
When some one hands me something I do not take it and run with it. I first check it out because I want to be informed. I want to know who I am voting for. You should try it because you might like it.
Now I am open to checking any one out. So if you have something on Steve Hulsey by all means share it with us and if you are not willing to share it then why bring it up in the first place. If you start throwing out hints that some one could be rotten and then you do not produce then in my eyes you are far worst off than I could ever be. At least I am ready and willing to back up what I say. Are you willing to do  the same?  I sure do not want to vote for any one who has  an arm load of black marks on their record. I can go to the library but could you at least give me a clue as to  what I should be looking for.
After all as you can see I can’t even spell.
By the way the person who handed me the three pages of reprimands gave me the exact place to look.
Now you have thrown out some hints that Hulsey may be like Burkhalter. I sure would like to know what you have or know. What the heck let’s all be informed.
Sorry but when you jumped into this fight you put yourself on the same level. Please do not try and white wash what you really are.
Last but not least. If some one knew that a crazy person had cut your break lines  would it not be nice if that some one told you about it? If some one cut my break lines I would surly want to know about it. So please share your hint with us all. Oh I know you don’t want to stoop to my level. Got news for you friend you already have. Only deal is you went allot lower that I did. One other thing you need to be corrected on and that is this. Bad mouth and facts are two different things. Bad mouth is when you throw out hints and nothing else. When some one is willing to back up what they say then I would be willing to call that a fact So why don't you tell us all something and change your bad mouth to facts.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 09:36 am

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Ok I am finally here and will weigh in.

One if you must spell bad, click the little check with the abc at the top right it will correct for you.

Two  My own daughters have a ton of black marks on there record, and some where for doing what they were not supposed to do, but did it to help a friend.  Granted they are 6 and 8, but they know not to walk all the way down to our mail boxes.  But went against daddies word to help a friend that fell off a bike and skinned knee real bad.  By you way of thinking, I guess it is good they are not running for office.

I prefer to look at what has been accomplished, and that is all good.  We now have great programs, the officers are showing light in their eyes of respect and honor again, and the community really has benefited from all his programs.

So unless you can prove 100% that he is a horrid murderer or a Colombian drug lord he has my vote.

And yes the library does offer  many books on spelling also.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:34 am

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Justice wrote: Let me guess. You are a deputy and you work for sheriff Burkhalter. Sound about right? Who repremnded him? Let's see if I can find some of the names on the three sheets.
Oh here they are.
1-Jim Goble
Chief Deputy, Jim Gobles repremended him twice.

2-Mike Thornton , Sheriff

3-Chief Deputy Doug Simmons
 
4-Major Jacks

5-Larry A. Johnson

6-Jerry M. Ely Capt.

7-Chief Tommy McGuire

Now if that is not enough I can just print the complete pages. Your call.

This is not enough. Print the whole pages and let everyone see what you are talking about. Then they can make up their own minds. If this is just minor things then you are waisting yours and everyone on heres time.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 11:52 am

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I must throw the d**n bulls**t flag!  Don't have a dog in the hunt b.s.................Steve Hulsey had a "Free Matt Dunagan" sign in his yard.  When romegasir said that you were family....he was talking about Matt's family.  The Library, Oh hell fire I will do it, if anyone will!  Just call steve and ask him why he was no longer allowed to be a City Reserve officer.  I am going to go ahead and call you out about the "file" print it or I will.  You know why? Because it wasn't newsworthy four years ago and it ain't now.  It is not even an issue.  His record over the last four years are.  Hulsey has no choice but to go dirty and this is it.  If you don't post the file, I will go ahead and get it out now.  I think the term is "ain't skeered!"  If you have never had a write up you haven't done enough to make a difference which is what Kevin Poe wants.......................a dadgum puppet for sheriff.  Fire away justice.........I got my guns loaded to the gill!  I hate dirty politics and will not let someone who lives in a glass house throw rocks and shove deception and lies down peoples throats.  You force my hand!

One more lesson........the case has been remanded back to the trail court to let the fact finding jury hear some facts of the case that didn't get heard.

Guilty or not guilty are the only two results in a trial.  No one gets found innocent........and not guilty doesn't not mean innocent.  Getting a not guilty in this case would cause the same reaction in peoples minds that the Oj case did.  They would lose faith in the justice system because of proceedural mistakes cause people to go free.  Everyone knows oj did it.  Couldn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, but the perponderance of the evidence said he did.  Same case here if not found guilty. The later is my bet! 

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 12:06 pm

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Justice , I for one would like for you to print these repremands.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 12:37 pm

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Reprimands and citations should be part of an employee's personnel file and has no place being made public regardless of the circumstances or who's personnel file it is, unless said employee releases the information. This should apply to public officials also. Anything short of that is probably a gross violation of the privacy laws.

Instead of all the arguing over who did what and who didn't do what, let them both do the following:

Detail to the public their verifiable and pertinent detailed backgrounds and experiences which applies to being qualified for the position they are seeking.

Explain what their vision is for the office and the department, the reasoning behind their viewpoints and how they intend to accomplish the goals. With that criteria in mind, they should be able to explain also how they expect to finance those goals, any obstacles they expect to encounter and how they plan on overcoming those obstacles.

Detail the issues that they deem detrimental to the safety of the public and present a plan for correction of these issues. Public Safety after all is the management position they are seeking or attempting to retain.

The Matt Dunagan saga is a whole other issue, not applicable to the Burkhalter/Hulsey campaign and Matt Dunagan is what this thread was intended to discuss. There is another thread dedicated just for the Sheriff's race.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 02:25 pm

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Thank you Stoker!

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:56 pm

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punkinhead wrote: I must throw the d**n bulls**t flag!  Don't have a dog in the hunt b.s.................Steve Hulsey had a "Free Matt Dunagan" sign in his yard.  When romegasir said that you were family....he was talking about Matt's family.  The Library, Oh hell fire I will do it, if anyone will!  Just call steve and ask him why he was no longer allowed to be a City Reserve officer.  I am going to go ahead and call you out about the "file" print it or I will.  You know why? Because it wasn't newsworthy four years ago and it ain't now.  It is not even an issue.  His record over the last four years are.  Hulsey has no choice but to go dirty and this is it.  If you don't post the file, I will go ahead and get it out now.  I think the term is "ain't skeered!"  If you have never had a write up you haven't done enough to make a difference which is what Kevin Poe wants.......................a dadgum puppet for sheriff.  Fire away justice.........I got my guns loaded to the gill!  I hate dirty politics and will not let someone who lives in a glass house throw rocks and shove deception and lies down peoples throats.  You force my hand!

One more lesson........the case has been remanded back to the trail court to let the fact finding jury hear some facts of the case that didn't get heard.

Guilty or not guilty are the only two results in a trial.  No one gets found innocent........and not guilty doesn't not mean innocent.  Getting a not guilty in this case would cause the same reaction in peoples minds that the Oj case did.  They would lose faith in the justice system because of proceedural mistakes cause people to go free.  Everyone knows oj did it.  Couldn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, but the perponderance of the evidence said he did.  Same case here if not found guilty. The later is my bet! 


LOL...........looks like Justice got "served"..........................

and I repeat, expect MORE of this from Matt's family..............................

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 05:29 pm

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yeah, thanks stoker my thoughts exactly.  You started this post about Dunagan and then turned it political.  I for one sure won't vote for anyone who has anything to do with him leaving jail 1 day to early.

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 06:05 pm

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Even if he was repremanded, he paid his dues...learned from his mistakes and went on to do great things. 

What is this that I hear about Hulsey get banned from city reserve for getting caught **** *** ***** **** ** *** ******* ****?

And why was he forced to resign from the Sheriff's Office?

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thumper wrote: Even if he was repremanded, he paid his dues...learned from his mistakes and went on to do great things. 

What is this that I hear about Hulsey get banned from city reserve for getting caught **** *** ***** **** ** *** ******* ****?

And why was he forced to resign from the Sheriff's Office?


COme on folks... lets stop slinging mud...

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 Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 07:13 pm

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I think this thread has started to get off topic.... In my opinion, items in people's personnel file should be left there.

We need to stop slinging mud... that  goes for both sides.
Get this thread back on topic and stop slinging mud or we will be forced to close it...

Thanks!


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