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I am writing this primarily for the benefit of my daughter. I have always told her not to ignore world’s history. To do so means that we will have to repeat it……as history shows. I have always been interested in history. Especially American and Georgia. I am now reading a series of books on North Georgia History. Heck, at one time I wanted to be an archeologist, a scientist, a cop, a pilot (yea with my vision), a bordello owner. I was not that great in history in school, as I cannot remember dates or names worth a dime. Old so and so said around such and such that “I regret that I only have but one life to give for my country”. I do know that it was not one of the Beatles….wrong century? I think. Since I have retarted I mentioned to my family that I was going to spend more time looking at our history. I have always loved to read and quit counting after over 1,000 books(not Playboys). I recently received a book of around 380 pages entitled, “The South was Right”. Of course I have always know that, but it is kinda hard to convince a yankee, as I did not have enough hard facts to sustain a good debate against ignorance. I was not quick to jump on this thick of a book, as I never finished Dr. Zhigavowhatshisname. At the time I could not justify that much time in bed with a book, and had a job. Someone saw me pick the book up in a bookstore and scan through it. So I received it as a gift and I am appreciative. Some of this stuff I was already aware of, but could not back up. A lot of it was suspected because of other things I have read, but not documented. This is the most researched and documented book I have ever read. It can be used in the most intense debates with a mindless yankee (I will not capitalize that), you will ever encounter. I knew as a kid going to school, that the history I was being taught about the South and the Civil War were not true, as it did not coincide with my personal history. I did not have any ill’s toward blacks, just yankees.. Those history books were written in the N.E. Such as what the terrorist are teaching their children today. At the end of the War for Southern Independence, slaves were still being held by yankees. Before the war, they got rid of most of them by selling them to dumb Southerners because they were no longer a profit gain. They had a lot of Irish immigrants willing to work cheap, making it unprofitable to keep slaves. There is a difference between most yankees and Southern people. The yankees were out for profit and controlling the federal government, and the South. The South was resisting a bigger federal government. Lincoln turned this into a slavery issue when he was running for reelection because he wanted to deter other nations from supporting the South. The big “S” slavery was started in the Northeast. Not the South. The flags flying over those slave ships were the U.S.Flag. Even after the President banned slaves coming into this country, the yankee slavers, for profit, continued selling slaves to the rest of the Americas, and continued to comply their trade.. Any other nation still dealing with slavery only had to fly the U.S. flag to keep them from being boarded, by non slavery nations. .
Around 10% percent of the slaves brought to the Americas were brought into the United States. Most of these were sold to the Southern States for a profit to raise things the yankees needed to convert into profit. Like cotton to supply their non agrarian society (had to look that one up).. The rest of them went to the other parts of the Americas. Most supplied by the N.E. States……..Not under a Confederate Flag. That Flag stands for value, virtue, and integrity.. Most if not all were brought in through N.E. slave traders, by yankees. So whom should the Blacks blame for slavery? The Northeast is now wealthy because of it. The yankees are strong because of the exploitation of it. That was under the U.S. flag. Not the Southern flag.
When I started this “note”, I had the intent to transcribe about 30 pages of the book. I realized that by the time I got finished, that I would be a gray headed old so-in-so….come to think of it I already am. I will just give my daughter my copy of the book, as I want her to understand what really happened and why it is important to be proud to be a Southerner.
At my age it takes a lot to excite me. A well-timed nap excites me. My Daughters life excites me. Linda’s potato salad excites me. My Family’s well being excites me. My Friends well being excites me. I believe this is the first time a book has ever excited me. I have always been proud of being Southern. While in the military I lived and worked with a lot of yankees. I feel that this book should be in all Southern homes, and required reading in all Southern schools. This war of civil dis-obendiance was actually a war to change our Republic Constitution as originally envisioned by our Patriots, to a Constitution of big government…..which we are still suffering. The 14th. amendment was illegal when it was passed, and still is today.
The only reason we have lost our beautiful State Flag….the only one that I have ever known, is that the yankees are still trying to oppress the South. If it were not for air conditioning, they would not be down here……as they are cold bloodied. They can not bear living in states where the Flags of the Southern Rights for Independence fly, so we have to change our State Flag…….course as always they try to make it a black issue. That flag never flew over a slave ship. It was the flag of the U.S. A lot of blacks voluntarily fought for the Southern Independence. Most that fought for the yankees were constricted by the yankees, even after hiding.
As a kid growing up, I spent a lot of my summers on my great grandmother’s home in the Georgia south. A black family adjoined her property and I only saw mutual respect between them. When my Great Grandmother died in the early 60’s the whole family came over to offer their condolences and prayers. This impressed me greatly because at home I still saw water fountains and bathrooms marked “Colored”, and “White”. Reconstruction was a plan by the yankees to get the blacks to hate the whites as slave owners, and to disallow the South of Constitutional rights. It is ironic that the UNION of the United States encouraged the different States of the UNION of Soviet Socialist Republic to secede. But not it’s own Southern states. The same UNION that backed Texas to secede from Mexico, and Panama to secede.
I have always been proud of being Southern and did not really understand why. I am only half way through this book and I now understand why. Sooo if you are proud of being Southern…get this book. You can borrow my copy after Ashley reads it. Lord knows she needs to read it, as she is a true to life God fearing red-neck……Think she got that from my brother’s side of the family. A red neck is an honorable form of identification. Something yankees do not understand.
Will get off this box for now. The next one will probably be about our Democratic Socialist party that wants to give everything to everybody, even if they are not legally in this country…..but they give them the right to vote….for the DSP. It is all about control and power. As was for the war for Southern Independence……..still going on.
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I am sending this to people that are important to me, so if you did not get it??????Maybe I forgot, as I am a senile ole retarted huh!!!!!
I will send this out as pages, as some people have limited mailbox sizes…..so if you do not like the first page, just delete the rest.
Well I woke up on the 6th. and saw an unbelievable shift in the direction of this country. To be honest I was surprised, but pleased. I voted early on the 5th. and voted often.
I sometimes ask myself “what would cause me to want to leave this country”? This is the same question our forefathers had to ask of themselves, before leaving their native countries. They left knowing that they might not survive the trip..…..lets see now, these were not luxury liners. America was not a vacation resort catering to tourists. What could compel these people to come here, to a dangerous country full of unknowns? Perhaps, leaving a life where the knows of their life and government were known. These people came here seeking freedom, even if it meant their deaths. This country is still struggling with the same concerns and desires as the writers of the original Republic Constitution. Some of the signers of the Declaration of Independence actually wanted to set up a monarchy. They wanted the new country to be ruled by a king. One of our earlier Presidents was a monarchist. These men who signed the Declaration knew that they were putting themselves on the “hit list”. They were jeopardizing their family and all their possessions…..and some did suffer these consequences.
That original Constitution gave States the right to secede from the Union. The first State that threatened to secede was a northern State. And that threat resolved an issue. Know that, at the time that was done, that it was realized by all of the States that is was their right to secede, (as long as it was a northern state).
As a kid growing up, I assumed all Southerners were democratic and all northerners were republican. Your earlier black Congressmen, from the South, were Republican. Mankind evolves around power. To have the power, you have to have control. This has not changed since the first caveman hit the other caveman. He was bigger or had a bigger rock? The Democratic Party could not get control until FDR. He promised a chicken in every pot. Who was going to supply the chicken? I don’t think FDR had a chicken house. Growing up, I felt that family took care of family, which I still feel today. I do not need FDR giving me a chicken, I expect my family to give me a chicken. He has always been revered as the one that got this country out of the depression. His greatest accomplishment was to teach those who wanted the control, to buy the votes. You buy votes by giving certain groups things to keep them voting for those who want the control. It was the war that got this country out of the depression. Just as Hitler got Germany out of their depression by waging war. Of course the warmongering, world-dominating United States poured untold amounts of money into that country to help them recover, just as we did in Japan, so that both could become world economic competitors. Is that something that a country would do that wants to dominate the world? A dictator would have kept them under his thumb (as Russia did). But, being a country believing in the right, from God, to be free……this country did it differently than any other country in world history. Even though the former USSR allowed the wall to come down….after socialism failed, just as it did in this country-they did not offer any financial assistance to those they once dominated.
Socialism is alive and well in this country. The desire of a government controlled Union (of States) has been the main desire, of some, since the signing of the Republic Constitution. That is the reason the Southern States elected to legally secede from the Union, as allowable by the Original Constitution. They wanted less government control (sound familiar). The numerically superior northern states kept trying to pass laws unfair to the South. The Southern States kept blocking, by pointing out that it was unconstitutional. It is all about control and the yanks did not like it, so they brought war to the South. They could not take the chance of the South to remain prosperous by dealing with other countries, as a free country, as they knew they would financially suffer.
Socialism is a form of Government where everyone is taken care of by the Central Government. That was the first form of a formal government set up in these states. It was a great form of government…. For the ones who would not get off their fanny’s and work as hard as their neighbors…didn’t last long. Since it was such a small group of people, it quickly became apparent to everyone that it was not going to work. How long did it take Russia to realize it? They tried it with a controlling government. The colony tried it as a group of like people. I retired almost 2 years ago and at that time, I had money stolen from me, just in Federal taxes, than I am now earning . At that time we still had to pay additional stolen money in taxes in April. I was paying legalized thief, as single and no dependents. So since I have retired, hopefully someone has had to get off their fanny’s and earn their own keep. It would have been different if I had of ever-received a “thank you” card from them.
Liberalism is a code word for socialism. 99 percent of the liberals in this country vote in the Democratic Party who buys votes. That party has changed since I was a kid growing up. They now buy votes constantly. They cater to every minority group in the country, as long as it is to their benefit. They maneuver with small, seemingly unimportant laws such as giving convicted felons the right to vote. You hard working people, not sitting on your fanny’s, do not see this, as you are too busy providing for your family plus another family. The illegal aliens coming into this country can get some of your money…… They will eventually vote democratic. People who do not have a clue as to who is President-vote. People in Unions are told who to vote for. Not all do. But as it is a Union thing, a lot do. Their dues go into the socialist treasure chest, which they have no say so over. I personally know Union members who are really Patriot’s but still vote democrat. The law to protect the lives of the people in this country has been held up in the Senate because of union needs, (Home Defense). The only reason, as per the Republic Constitution, for a central government is to protect me as a member of this Union, not the worker unions. And they cannot figure out why they lost this thing. It is all about feeling safe. The only job of the central federal government, for the union, is for protection. The federal government failed miserably Sept. 11. That is their only job. Not roads, health benefits, prescription drugs, job protection for people who should be fired because of work ethics. Of course the people that want these things, but are not willing to provide for it themselves, will vote for these things. Gime, gime. The way it was set up, the states were to provide for the needs for their states, including who had the right to vote.
Just like in your home. You know your income and have to prioritize accordingly. When the democrats are in control, they need more money to buy more votes, so they raise taxes, and increase the number of special interest groups not having to pay taxes. About 50 percent of the people in this country do not pay any tax. When the majority of the people are able to vote to take money away from others……you figure it out. When you have 3 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what is for supper….guess a wolf gets eaten. That by the way is a democracy….the majority rules. That is the reason the Republic Constitution was written the way that it was. This country was not founded as a democracy but founded as a Republic. Al Gore wants a “living constitution”…..just what in the devil is that. Kinda like the recent decision of the New Jersey Supreme Court to change the law, because it would not be a “fair” election without a democrat running. Just how many incumbents did you vote for in this last election that did not have any opposition? If you do not like the law, just ignore it. If you do not like the limiting power of the Constitution, then just change it. Which is exactly what the Northern states did following the war for Southern Independence. They kicked the Southern States out of congress, then passed the 14th. amendment, and by doing so, makes the present constitution illegal. And by being illegal, according to the original Republic Constitution, there is no Union…or central government. .
The current Democratic party knows that there are a lot of Patriots in this country. Most of them in the South, as has always been. I have referenced to some of you in the past, that a large majority of Patriots fighting in every war of this country, were Southern…..Dumb Southerners. Maybe, but they are true Patriots ….as they believed in freedom, even from the government…..reference the revolutionary war, and the War for Southern Independence.. If I recollect correctly, the Brits were trying to raise the tax to around 16%. How much are you paying now. Do you know? The democrats know that with so many Patriots in the country that they have to rely on the fringe groups for votes. That is the people they give money to. That is the people they give concessions (laws) to. Greenpeace, animal rights, environmental nuts with falsified data, unions, blacks, (whom they have not helped after how many years in office since the depression), homeless, illegal aliens….whom they encourage into the country, convicted felons, abortionist, movie stars (most of which do not have a clue as they are pretenders- they have always pretended to be someone else), Barbara and Rosie are prime examples. They tell us to conserve electricity, reduce cost, no guns. Non of which they practice-that is for the peons. True liberals, kinda reminds me of the Robin Hood era. This thing has not changed since then, and it will always be. It will always be a constant battle. The good will always have to confront the evil in this world, and right now it is a serious battle in this country. The evil always wants the power. The good gets it to fight the evil. That little caveman with the rock was probably defending himself against the bigger one who was using his size for evil. That is the reason we now have rock control.
Someone figured out that when FDR bought the votes with social security, though well intentioned, that ability could be used to take control. These people that wanted control decided to use these tactics to take control. No matter the party name. They rely on the Southern states as being democratic, to vote democratic because of the war for Southern Independence (forget hell). That is the reason they infiltrated the Democratic Party. The past two elections show what they did not understand. The Southern states are not democratic……they are Patriots. They understand the sacrifices of freedom, as they have given more than anyone else has in the history of this country.
My wife asked me after the last election about not voting for someone in the party, because she did not like him personally. I have had family members, who were, instrumental in teaching me the difference between right and wrong, voicing concerns about one party controlling all 3 departments of the government. I tried to explain to my wife that party names do not mean a thing. The values of the parties can change, as the democratic party I grew up with. In the early 70’s I started voting right vs. wrong This world conflict, has always been the difference between what is right and what is wrong. This has been the demise of many great nations. I told her that presently, the Republican Party is more right, (good) versus the Democratic Party, (evil). So you vote for good over evil, and if you want that particular party to be in control, then you vote for that good party in spite of your feelings about the individual…..unless he is evil. The important part is to get the good party in office. Most conservatives, (which is not really the same as religious fanatics, though that is what the mainstream media want us to think), who do not want a central government in their face, (such as a lot of North Georgians did not want, as some of their revenue came from their God given right to produce, at home, a home tonic), right now vote republican. Most socialist, (give me part of what you earn, as I am not as lucky as you. Yea, I know I made the decisions that have gotten me where I am in life, but life is unfair…. so gimme), vote Democratic. The democratic (socialist) party has changed drastically since I was a kid. As I said before that when 50% of the population do not have to pay taxes, yet some receive tax credit refunds, which direction are we going in?
This country is at a crossroad. Just like every other country in history. Which way do we go. Good or evil? A lot of the South was settled by primarily Scottish/Irish immigrants. Most of the oldest buildings in the south are churches. So why were these people coming over here?
The Judiciary branch of the government is not to make LAWS. That is the job of the congress, to be agreed upon by the President. The only job that the Judiciary branch is to decide as weather or not that it is within the Republic Constitution. The laws passed by the house and senate is supposed to be the desires of the constituents of their states. In the recent past, the Judiciary has ruled, and made laws that were not voted on by the people of the United States. That ain’t the way it is suppose to happen. Guess what. The socialist in this country found that if they could get enough liberals (socialist), into the court systems that they could erode the Republic Constitution, which is what happened following the War for Southern Independence. And most recently in New Jersey. What the hell, we will just change that law, the socialist need this seat. Oh yea, I forgot about campaign financing law, which erodes the Republic Constitution, such as in the areas of free speech. Does not affect the main stream media. So they can say whatever they want to say. Who is in control of this country??????? Patriots, or the (socialist) main stream media.
One of the things that the socialist did not count on was the baby boomers. I think that I qualify as I was born in 1947. I realized, by the time that I was 25, that I would never receive social security, and that if I did that it would not be much. I know that they can still scare the hell out of my Grandmother, who is in her 90’s, a great Lady, and shame on them for doing that. In addition to some other family members. But cutting social security will soon not be a scare tactic…. been going on too long. There is no Social Security fund. The logical way to deal with social security is to have a fund and invest it…..perhaps in government bonds. Never happened. I am a retired baby boomer who is no longer paying large amounts into social security…….so who is going to pay. A lot of baby boomers are reaching retirement age, so when we quit paying………where are the socialist going to get their money to buy votes. You young people, start saving now. The all-powerful socialist government will not be able to deliver their promises and you will be left hanging..
I was raised in a family where most of the families were conservative. Family members fought gallantly for our country, and I am d**n proud of them, (Including my Nazi stepfather who joined the U.S. Army in time for the Korean war….. after all he did surrender, alas to the Russians). I remember, as a kid, looking at pictures on the walls of the flag and honorable discharges. These people taught me conservative values. These memories are still within me as they are with a lot of other baby boomers in the South. I remember in the late 50’s or early 60’s of some man named Cruisechaft, or something like that (told you that that is the reason I did not major in history…..cannot remember dates or names worth a dime), told us that Russia (socialism) would defeat the U.S. from within (or something like that). He had a habit of beating on podiums with his shoe. Well that kinda got my attention, which was hard to do at the time, as I was thinking a lot about Roy Rogers and Dale. I have watched for this since he said it. Even though Socialism eventually lost out in the USSR, (because they needed capitalism-meaning money). Well he was right. Socialism (liberalism) has grown in this country since then. It is subtle, patient. Take this tidbit here, there……always moving, gaining more control. For socialism to work, it has to be in a country with money, and a harsh government. The U.S. right now has the money…..we have to watch the government. Russia only gave it up when they ran out of money, their workers quit working when there was no benefits from working hard, they received the same thing as the other guy, (kinda like unions).
Bill Clinton’s tenure woke up a lot of Patriots. Hillary wants a village to raise my child…….ain’t going to happen. These people are socialist. It is my God given right to raise my Daughter, as deviant as I am. You just recently saw Patriots crossover in Georgia to defeat Cynthia McKinney by voting as Patriots. This socialist woman from Georgia is gone, as is her dad. The true republican (patriots), in this state finally figured out how to get rid of her, and to send a message. It is always about voting over right or wrong……not republican or democrat.
I am pleased by the direction this country is presently going in. Course that could change in the next election. I feel that a lot of Patriots are taking heart, and deciding to change this country back to what our forefathers came over here for. INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREEDOM……..do we need to leave this country to have it, as our forefathers had to do? So just remember my advice…vote early and often
Who said these:
“The Government of the United States has…..any and all rights which they choose to enforce in war-to take their lives, their homes, their lands, there everything…was is simply power unrestrained by constitution….To the persistent secessionist, why, death is mercy, and the quicker he or she is disposed of the better….”
Major General W.T. Sherman from Vicksburg on January 31, 1864.
“There is a class of people [Southerners] men, women, and children, who must be killed or banished before you can hope for peace and order.”
Major General W.T. Sherman June 21, 1864 to the Secretary of War Stanton.
“Your letter of the 21st. of June has just reached me and meets my approval.”
Yankee Secretary on War, Stanton.
“All that is left is for the liberal establishment to follow the example of all tyrants and to move against any local display of cultural pride that might cause the local vassals to remember and desire past freedoms and prosperity. Such memories are dangerous to tyrants because they might cause the conquered to think of themselves as a people with a common heritage, a common bondage, and a common desire to be free!” The South was Right. James Ronald Kennedy, and Walter Donald Kennedy. Copyright 1991.
“The message is clear and easy to understand: Be proud of your heritage. The last thing we need is for Skin-Heads and neo-Nazis to be seen as the ones who are represented by our nation’s flags. Our aim is to re-establish a constitutional republic in which everyone, including Southerners, is treated equally; or, if we fail to convince our Northern neighbors of the wisdom of such a change, then we will establish our own separate Southern nation.” The South was Right. James Ronald Kennedy, and Walter Donald Kennedy. Copyright 1991. Page 308.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 01:26 am |
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Very well written ROP and I will always honor heritage and want all to remember their heritage, wether it is Southern, Northern, Western, Spanish, Irish, Indian, whatever.
But as you also agreed earlier while we remember our heritage we most also honor our new heritage as one great nation in order to move forward into a bright future for all our children.
Despite what I was accused of in other threads, I am not southern or northern, but rather a westerner from a state that was raped by both sides, and in the history I know and have had passed down, both sides were just as evil. Hell growing up watching t.v. I saw the war was still going, but did not believe it until I moved here.
All I know for certain is we really need to stop all the minor bikering and come together as a nation again or we really be speaking a foriegn language for new bosses in the near future.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 01:56 am |
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| I am just proud of being Southern and like I stated earlier, it is one nation under God. I would be proud of any Native American heartige. I know you are proud where you came from as you should. I wrote this for my kid as I knew the exposure from othe parts of the country and world.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 02:02 am |
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| ROP, I'm a Southerner, I'm also an American. I love my country and the South. I started reading your letter but I have a very bad headache now so I will comeback later and finish it. Meanwhile, keep the coffee warm and the Tea cold and in the immortal words of "What's his name", I'll be back!
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| I can't spell his name either. I did not join in 1966 because I was Southern, cause I was an American, course we had fun.......why do you talk so funny?
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I can and will say I am a proud American with a family tree that goes to the first 3 ships to hit the shores, and relatives in every section of the country. I had tons of relatives on both sides of the Civil war, the Revalutionary war, had 15 relatives in the Dearborn Massacre up north, when the indians raided and took the women and kids hostage and back to Canada. I had relatives in Fort Macon North Carolina when it was over run with union troops.
So yes My family has been around for almost every battle in the grand old USA and I am a very proud American.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 03:40 am |
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| I am proud of you and your family. I don't have a clue who my family is. Don't care, I am an American.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 12:28 pm |
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ROP wrote: I can't spell his name either. I did not join in 1966 because I was Southern, cause I was an American, course we had fun.......why do you talk so funny?
Do I talk funny?
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Deaglos wrote: I can and will say I am a proud American with a family tree that goes to the first 3 ships to hit the shores, and relatives in every section of the country. I had tons of relatives on both sides of the Civil war, the Revalutionary war, had 15 relatives in the Dearborn Massacre up north, when the indians raided and took the women and kids hostage and back to Canada. I had relatives in Fort Macon North Carolina when it was over run with union troops.
So yes My family has been around for almost every battle in the grand old USA and I am a very proud American.
I did the geneology on my family a couple of years ago. I traced one side to England and Germany in the 15th century, some came in at Ellis Island, I have my great grandfathers Civil War Records(he lost 6 cartridges and had to pay for them), I had an Uncle who died from WWII injuries, Father, brother, uncle, cousins, husband served in Korea, Brother and cousins (one cousin killed) in Viet Nam. Great grandmother was cousin to Big Foot Wallace, who was a Texas Ranger and Surveyor who reportedly surveyed most of Texas. Great Great Grandmother was Cherokee, Great Great grandfather was Irish and Comanche (tough combination), Grandmother raised me, her brother was Willie Nelson's grandfather. Grandfather was deputy sherriff of Travis County TX until 1900 when he was bushwhacked, shot 7 times. He survived and moved the family to Tennessee where his family was still living.
I love history too, especially family history.
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By the way, My dad was a pilot, he spent 33 years in the Air force. In 1964, a man refused to rent my mother an apartment because she was American Indian. He asked her if she had anything against White people. She told him yes, she was going to pitch a tepee and go on the war path. Now you see why I'm so mean.
What's really funny is that Cynthia East, my great great great grandmother who was on the Indian rolls, was the last to live on a reservation.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 12:47 pm |
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Spice a few of those sound a bit familiar to some cousins in me tree, send a few last names and I will corralate in my rather small database of family tree. (over 400k names)
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Hell to my shame I have also discovered I am a 22nd cousin to one G.W. Bush
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 01:17 pm |
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Deaglos wrote: Spice a few of those sound a bit familiar to some cousins in me tree, send a few last names and I will corralate in my rather small database of family tree. (over 400k names)
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Hell to my shame I have also discovered I am a 22nd cousin to one G.W. Bush
I don't think we have a Bush in our family. We have Templeton, Nelson, Cude, Hunt, Woods, Wolfe, Rainey, Knight, East, Washington. Those are the ones I can remember right off the top of my head but I have a complete listing on the computer, if you want to tell me some of your family names. Shucks, we might be related. I love having relatives.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 02:03 pm |
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Spice wrote: Deaglos wrote: Spice a few of those sound a bit familiar to some cousins in me tree, send a few last names and I will corralate in my rather small database of family tree. (over 400k names)
Edited to add:
Hell to my shame I have also discovered I am a 22nd cousin to one G.W. Bush
I don't think we have a Bush in our family. We have Templeton, Nelson, Cude, Hunt, Woods, Wolfe, Rainey, Knight, East, Washington. Those are the ones I can remember right off the top of my head but I have a complete listing on the computer, if you want to tell me some of your family names. Shucks, we might be related. I love having relatives.
I have lots of nelson, hunt, wolfe, 2 rainey, lots of knight, 6 east and about 20 washington. Main lines for me are hershey, stebbins, hudson, and seek. Got the last name of Daniels from my fathers step father when he his mom remarried he was 10, so I never did much on the Daniels family.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 02:59 pm |
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Deaglos wrote: Spice wrote: Deaglos wrote: Spice a few of those sound a bit familiar to some cousins in me tree, send a few last names and I will corralate in my rather small database of family tree. (over 400k names)
Edited to add:
Hell to my shame I have also discovered I am a 22nd cousin to one G.W. Bush
I don't think we have a Bush in our family. We have Templeton, Nelson, Cude, Hunt, Woods, Wolfe, Rainey, Knight, East, Washington. Those are the ones I can remember right off the top of my head but I have a complete listing on the computer, if you want to tell me some of your family names. Shucks, we might be related. I love having relatives.
I have lots of nelson, hunt, wolfe, 2 rainey, lots of knight, 6 east and about 20 washington. Main lines for me are hershey, stebbins, hudson, and seek. Got the last name of Daniels from my fathers step father when he his mom remarried he was 10, so I never did much on the Daniels family.
Mother's side
My grandmother, was Jennie Nelson, born in Bee County TX, moved to Austin with my Grandfather Charlie Templeton. Great aunt was Mittie Nelson, Married Otto Wolfe and moved to Austin, Great Aunt Ruby was Nelson, married John Kippenbrock, after his death, married a Rainey, moved to Austin, Great Aunt Eula married a Knight, moved to Austin. Great Great Grandmother was Rachel Ann Cude, married Billy Frank Nelson who was born in Dixon Mills AL, her mother, Rachel Ann Walker married George Washington Cude, They lived around Gonzales and Montgomery TX, Her mother was Cynthia Ann East who married Jessie Walker, Cherokee Territory, AZ 1850. The line goes back to Edward Coode (they later changed the spelling to Cude) in 1704, Methieigh Penryn England and Timmothy and Edward Coode line dates back to 1500's.
Cude names were: Cynthia, Lillie Jane, Rachael Ann, John Seaborn, Billington William, James Cade, Charles, Elizabeth, Soloman, Walter, Sarah, Tobas.
There are also Castleberry's (Hendrick Kesselberg, and Heinerich Aufm) from Bakersdorf Brugen Germany, Derrick , Martin, Wallace.
Fathers side
The Hunt Line came from Germany and Grandfather Gus Hunt was born in Victoria TX. Grandmother was a Woods, born in Woodbury TN
That is certainly just a partial list, I have over 800 names.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 03:00 pm |
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ROP wrote: I am proud of you and your family. I don't have a clue who my family is. Don't care, I am an American.
ROP, you can be part of my family.
edited to mention that every family needs at least one member who knows how to live off peanut butter sandwichs and water.
Last edited on Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 03:03 pm by Spice
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