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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 06:43 pm |
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ROFLMAO, i was thinking that also, dang great minds think alike
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 08:07 pm |
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RNpara wrote: ROFLMAO, i was thinking that also, dang great minds think alike When I hear someone say they think like me, it sets alarms off in my head. If you were replying to my post? The way I think is totally "outside the norm". Even my poor family has given up trying to figure out how my mind works. I'd give a psychiatrist nightmares! But still, I am ROFLMAO. 
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 08:43 pm |
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The First Courthouse looked like this log cabin on the Sidney Evans place which was built around the same time and is less than a mile north of the Old Courthouse site--but on the opposite side of the road.
Although it was reported that the log cabin courthouse was floated up river to Rome, there were some rocky shoals--one reason for the lock and dam that was built later--so the logs may have made the last part of the trip on a wagon or drug on a chain, or they may have changed their minds  especially since Jackson Trout--who had built the log courthouse--did not like it getting moved.
I have also read that Jackson Trout turned the courthouse into a home. That is also likely because within a year Rome had built a fancier courthouse near where the clocktower is now.
When I get through with some other things I'll go back and see if I can find the logs concealed in some later additions to a home and if it has had such a fortune spent on it that it has managed to escape destruction by Rome's Building Inspection Dept.?
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 09:04 pm |
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More on the First Court House:
Since we can post only one picture with an article, I'm doing a little follow up here so you can all see those cornerstones I was so delighted to find. 
Here are the two eastern cornerstones and the marble memorial stone that was later placed in the center of where our first courthouse used to sit (and where the white wood frame church sat after the courthouse was moved.)  they are just a few feet south of the present day red brick Livingston United Methodist Church.
The northeast cornerstone (the one on the left) is what I saw first.  It seems to have an extra stone on top of it (an old step stone?)
More later, Serpentfoot
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 12:12 am |
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Jr.FanAlways wrote: RNpara wrote: ROFLMAO, i was thinking that also, dang great minds think alike When I hear someone say they think like me, it sets alarms off in my head. If you were replying to my post? The way I think is totally "outside the norm". Even my poor family has given up trying to figure out how my mind works. I'd give a psychiatrist nightmares! But still, I am ROFLMAO.
i know, sometimes my husband tells me to think before i speak, but it doesn't always work, i have always thought outside the norm, but the bad thing is there are more who think the same way too just do not say it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 12:14 am |
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| very interesting stuff serpentfoot, do you know what the old houses on morten bend used to be, down where the old farm is now, i had heard they were old slaves quarters back years ago. i love local history and just hate that we destroy so much of it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 03:19 am |
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RNpara wrote: very interesting stuff serpentfoot, do you know what the old houses on morten bend used to be, down where the old farm is now, i had heard they were old slaves quarters back years ago. i love local history and just hate that we destroy so much of it. After reading, writing and math, history would be next in line for me. I love history but not so in high school. My love of history is a new interest. One reason I have vowed to stay connected to the internet. So much information and pictures when you look in the right places. Everything is here somewhere. And I don't have to leave home. I love the library but home is much more relaxing. There is so much to learn and see and never enough time. When we travel anywhere on vacation I always search out local museums. They are everywhere. I was in Greenville, Tn. last summer and visited several museums, including one at the local college. The people there were so open to showing me around and one nice lady even took me upstairs to show me the archives rooms and old yearbooks. WOW! Fashions of the past!
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 06:53 am |
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RNpara wrote: very interesting stuff serpentfoot, do you know what the old houses on morten bend used to be, down where the old farm is now, i had heard they were old slaves quarters back years ago. i love local history and just hate that we destroy so much of it.
That's interesting. My grandad grew up there and I know he said there was a big plantation house where he grew up. I'll ask him if knows anything about slaves quarters down that way tomorrow
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 07:47 am |
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| cool, i used to live down on blacks bluff and had rode over there and saw them. There is a couple small 1 room cabins just off the road and that's what i was told that they were but i would like to hear it from someone who knows.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 08:21 pm |
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RNpara wrote: cool, i used to live down on blacks bluff and had rode over there and saw them. There is a couple small 1 room cabins just off the road and that's what i was told that they were but i would like to hear it from someone who knows.
Just got off the phone with my grandad. As I said, that's where he grew up and I've heard many stories about it like him going to Flo School (coincidently, he later married my grandmom whose name was flo, lol) and when he sunk the ferry down there on 3 separate occasions, lol .
Anyways, the property started out as a plantation owned by a Mr. Morton and then chaged hands two times before he grew up there. He lived at the plantation house which was named the Morton House. This house sat on Mortons Bend Rd. near where it intersects with Clemones Rd., between the road and the river. According to him, Mr. Clemones owned it, the farm, and a store when he was there. He said while Mr. Clemones gets put down all the time, he was a good man and would hire anyone, no matter what their situation was. He said the cabins were built by Mr. Clemones to house those workers and the families. So they were built post-slavery, in the early 30's.
According to him, everything was torn down except for the barn and store. Now whether he meant the cabins too, I'm unsure. I'd like to ride down there as we do every few years and let him show me where everything was again. I've already planned things like going to the firing range and going hiking when I'm finally recovered, so I'll add that to the list,lol
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 09:00 pm |
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Here are the two back (western) cornerstones of our old log cabin courthouse--hidden in the brush but you can see a bit of each cornerstonestone.
The SW cornerstone is to the left rear of the left tree. The NW cornerstone is to the right rear of the right tree. (It is about 6 feet south of the present day red brick Livingston United Methodist Church. These back stones, like the front stones, seem to have had trees planted to mark the cornerstones, about a yard from each cornerstone (inside where the cabin stood).
I hope the tree roots never overturn the stones--like some of those big oakes that tear up sidewalks. Anyway that would be a while. Meantime I will suggest that we clear out around the cornerstones a bit so they will be more visable when we have the 175th anniversaries of both church and courthouse later this year.
August 17 2008 the church will celebrate its 175th anniversary (not necessarily on time but they find that date convenient--and it is the right year; they celebrated the 150th anniversary April 17-21, 1983.) December 21st, 2008 is the County Courthouse's 175th anniversary.
The Church, and I as citizen, are going to ask the County Commission and the Georgia House of Representatives to recognize both the church and the county's 175th anniversaries [just as the did the 150th anniversaries], but with separate proclamations for each this time, so we can get one hung in the present day county courthouse where it will never again be forgotten.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 09:01 pm |
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| Kinda funny, I went ti Biloxi Miss. about 12 years ago company business. Heard Kessler AFB had set up a museum. Rode out there and found it. It was housed in the same transit barrack I stayed in my first week. I went through it with a tech sgt. and explaind to him I had stayed there in the 60's. He wanted to know if I still had any of my stuff, said I still have my blues. Wanted to know know if I wanted to donate them to the museum. dang I'm museum quality.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 10:26 pm |
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I have not checked out the old cabins on Morton's Bend Road yet but look forward to it when I get time [if I am truly immortal--which is the way I generally feel, as if I have forever--and surely I do but maybe not in this same frame. I mean here I am 75, and not to gamble on it too much, I am trying to act as if I am truly just mortal and have to set some priorities. so...]. If I don't finish all of it, maybe some of the rest of you who love to reach both forward and back will find out the rest of the story. Even if we are immortal, even God needs helpers, servants--desperately!  
One of the ladies at Livingston United Methodist Church said that her grandmother (born ~1907) always said the Log Cabin Courthouse was on Morton's Bend Rd. At first I dismissed that as just more confusion. Certainly they were not there when it was operating as a courthouse.
However, whethe courthouse was moved--it may be that the logs never made it all the way up-river over those rocky shoals to Rome in 1834--before they got a working dam for a while--that would be good because then maybe Rome Building Inspectors didn't get to destroy it and all it would have had to survive would have been storms and fires. It is indeed possible that the logs from the first Court house could have been taken to Morton's Bend--or maybe they are hid under some house in Rome.
The surest way to find it is to trace out everywhere William Smith and Jackson Trout lived. They were both involved with the building of the old log Courthouse. And Jackson Trout, for one, did not live it being moved. It was said he used it for one of the first houses in Rome. But if it is here in the country it stood a greater chance of survival. So I hope somebody hid it in Morton's bend and that we find the logs. We have the cornerstones.
Above I have posted a photo of the great expanse of acres across Hwy. 100 S. (aka Foster's Mill Store) across from Livingston United Methodist Church. With all that wide open space--except for one little mobile home--If we moved our Courthouse back to Livingston--across the road from where it first started, we would have no more parking problems at the Court House!
Also in all that wide open expanse maybe our countycommissioners could focus on something besides funnelling all our tax money to develope more business in downtown Rome. Unless they annex us to regain all the money and power for downtown Rome. Maybe we just need to see if we can't strip Rome of its city charter.
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 10:45 pm |
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I forgot to include the fact that behind that mobile home, across the road from where the old log courthouse was, there is not much else either between it and the Turner's Bend of the Coosa River.
If we not only put out current courthouse there, we could not only have plenty of but also have room for a park and a boat ramp or dock.
I love these wide open spaces. I love gardens too but I did not like it when Rome got Floyd County to put a garden in the middle of our parking lot at the Forum , and there never was enough parking for the courthouse after they put the Forum in the Courthouse parking lot. The smartest thing is for the county to get back to these wide open spaces. No more parking tickets. SO IT IS A BIT FAR FOR THOSE IN THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY? No problem if you don't have to run to the court house very often anyway. At least when you did go you would not get a parking ticket if it was here across from where it should have stayed.
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