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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:38 am |
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Tex wrote: Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school. This came from your liberal CNN article.
All I have say is, you can vote for the wolf in sheep's clothing, I'll be voting for what is in our country's best interest.
Maybe one day they can take the entire west coast and give it to all of you liberals. I'd like to see how long you would all last without some real men, with real patriotism running it. Hmmmm looks to be another France in the making.
Here is something that I found CNN about John McCain said by a fellow Republican...
"...McCain's reputation as a hothead in the Senate is well established. Last week GOP senators were furiously spinning to reporters--off the record, as usual--that their colleague from Arizona is too impatient and impetuous to be president. They argued that he would divide the Republican Party and, if elected, fail to motivate lawmakers to enact his agenda. "
Guess what? This is from February 2000! I think that it is strange that the EXACT same things are being said about him AGAIN. Just Google "John McCain Hothead" and see how many hits you get. I'll save you the trouble - it is 13,300. Yeah, I want him for president. <eye roll>
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Tex
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:04 am |
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| Google Barack Obama Muslim- 875,000 hits vs. John McCain Hothead -7,290 Last edited on Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:07 am by Tex
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Leonidas
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:09 am |
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Hey, I can play too:
google
Tex+liar 158,000 hits
Tex+propaganda 300,000 hits
Obama+Christian 1,070,000 hits
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TheNaturalist
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:12 am |
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Obama isn't and wasn't a Muslim. But, if he was:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
-Article VI, US Constitution
Why do you hate the constitution, Tex? The founders felt that what religion you practice wasn't a qualification for the office you hold. Apparently, you are much wiser than they are.
:-)
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:19 am |
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TheNaturalist wrote: Obama isn't and wasn't a Muslim. But, if he was:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
-Article VI, US Constitution
Why do you hate the constitution, Tex? The founders felt that what religion you practice wasn't a qualification for the office you hold. Apparently, you are much wiser than they are.
:-)
Yeah - I also remember when they let that nasty, Irish-Catholic, no count Kennedy into office! Man that sucked when the pope started running America.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:27 am |
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| Please don't quote CNN, I do not find them to be valid unbiased resource!
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:36 am |
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Ok let's take religion out of the mix and concentrate on politics.
From Accuracy in Media:
Obama’s Communist Mentor
In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes.
However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
I don't know about you, but I sure don't want someone who has had known ties to someone affiliated with the Communist Party.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:49 am |
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From Metapedia:
Barack Obama’s Communist connections
Several of Barack Obama’s influences and associates have Communist connections. Obama himself admits attending "socialist conferences."
- William Ayers was a former member of the Weathermen, a revolutionary Marxist organization that engaged in bombings. Ayers had no regrets in his group's terrorist activities which included bombings of the United States Senate and Pentagon; Ayers was quoted saying, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough." Ayers is now a college professor. Obama praised Ayers concerning an article he wrote on the juvenile justice system in Chicago. Ayers and Obama served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Ayers gave Obama a $200 donation for his reelection for state senate of Illinois.
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Leonidas
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 04:01 am |
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Okay, so first you accused him of being a muslim. When that myth was exposed you start calling him a communist. Those are two opposite ends of the political spectrum. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
You know what is funny....according to right-wing talk show hosts, even if McCain wins there will still be a Democrat in office.
1/20/09
The end of an error!
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:26 pm |
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Tex wrote:
From Metapedia:
Barack Obama’s Communist connections
Several of Barack Obama’s influences and associates have Communist connections. Obama himself admits attending "socialist conferences."
- William Ayers was a former member of the Weathermen, a revolutionary Marxist organization that engaged in bombings. Ayers had no regrets in his group's terrorist activities which included bombings of the United States Senate and Pentagon; Ayers was quoted saying, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough." Ayers is now a college professor. Obama praised Ayers concerning an article he wrote on the juvenile justice system in Chicago. Ayers and Obama served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Ayers gave Obama a $200 donation for his reelection for state senate of Illinois.
Wow! Thanks Joe McCarthy!
BARACK OBAMA IS A DANGEROUS COMMUNIST, JUST LIKE HARRY TRUMAN!!!
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:44 pm |
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Leonidas wrote: Okay, so first you accused him of being a muslim. When that myth was exposed you start calling him a communist. Those are two opposite ends of the political spectrum. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
You know what is funny....according to right-wing talk show hosts, even if McCain wins there will still be a Democrat in office.
1/20/09
The end of an error!
I didn't accuse him of being Muslim, I simply passed on information that is readily available on the Internet. I always recommend that everyone do their own research and come to their own opinion. There is a large amount of information concerning his early ties to the Muslim religion. If you read closely about the Muslim religion you will find that their beliefs are once you are a Muslim, you will always be a Muslim in their eyes. I am not saying that Obama follows the Muslim faith, however the Muslim religion still finds Obama to be a Muslim because he was a Muslim at birth. So we would in fact have a president that the Muslim world would believe to be a Muslim. It is also well documented that Obama has been very sympathetic to Muslim ideology. I find this to be a conflict of interest because the biggest threat to the American way is the radical Muslim. All Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim.
You made the comment that they were two different ends of the political spectrum. That is not correct as one is religion-based and the other is politically-based.
The communist ties are not disputed and readily available on the Internet. If you find it positive to vote for someone with communist and socialist ideology then in my opinion you yourself are a communist or socialist.
Socialism is for the weak. This country is being ruined by the entitlement class that strongly believes in socialist agenda. You know why? Because they are too weak or lazy to go out and stake their own claim. They believe everyone owes them something.
You state 1/20/09 is the end of an error? If you meant error, then that means you believe the Bush Administration has been a total failure. I can't say that I have agreed with all of the Bush policies, but I do believe in the fight against radical Muslims. It has been inevitable and I am glad that we had a president with enough fortitude to take it on.
Now if you stated 1/20/09 would be the end of an Era, I might agree. If the Democrats win the White House this country will become very weak again as it was with the Clinton Administration. Radical Islam will once again strengthen, and once again attacks will continue against the U.S. on our soil and abroad.
I do not believe that will happen though. If McCain, and trust me, he is not my favorite, is elected, he will continue the fight against radical Islam. I do believe when the primaries are over and the head to head debates begin, Americans will see the clear choice we have for the next president.
Obama is a nice guy and a good public speaker, but he is not presidential material. His experience level is less than adequate, his past is not very clear and the general voting body will see through it all.
Like you said, We will agree to disagree on this one!
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:48 pm |
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| I never said, Baraack Obama is a communist, Naturalist. His ties to a known communist reflect on his socialistic ideology.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:01 pm |
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Tex, to my knowledge we have never met. I do not know you, and I am fairly sure that you do not know me. All of the "data" that you have provided to support your claims has come from extreme right-wing sources. I understand that you don't want Obama as your president. That is fine. I respect your opinion. I do not, however, appreciate you calling me a communist/socialist. I am not. I also do not believe that Obama is a communist/socialist. If I thought that, I would not support him. I could post trash about McCain as well, but I will not resort to that level.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:04 pm |
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Tex wrote: I never said, Baraack Obama is a communist, Naturalist. His ties to a known communist reflect on his socialistic ideology.
You did not directly call Obama a communist, however, you said that if I supported someone with communist ties (your words which are lies and propaganda) then I was a communist. That in turn would lead someone to believe you are calling Obama a communist.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 03:55 pm |
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Well first of all Leonidas, you are correct, we probably don't know each other. My comments were not directed at you specifically. They are general opinions I have formed about socialism/communism. I am not trying to flame you nor discredit your opinion in any way. However, I strongly feel that the research I have conducted concerning Barack Obama have come from legitimate sources that Democrats readily try to disqualify. I am not a "Right-winger" nor am I a Republican. I am not a Democrat. I am an independant voter who is one of the 30-40 percent that will elect the next president. 30-35% are Democrats and they are voting for Barack. 30-35 percent are Republican and are going to vote most likely for John McCain. The independant voter will decide this election.
If you are going to say things are lies and propaganda, please quote your sources.
Can you tell me what is attractive about Obama. Can you tell me what kind of "change" he is going to bring to our country.
People keep talking Obama, but can't tell us what his platform really is.
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