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Kit Carson Member
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Janie, I couldn't have put it better than that.
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FMCRN Member
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Kit Carson wrote: When you call the useless and unprofessional, yes I think you are wrong. They are not useless. You know I have been a patient at FMC before and have had family that has been there. There are good and bad in all departments. Including the nursing staff. Does that mean ALL the nursing staff are useless and unprofessional. My answer to that is no. You can't just make a blanket statement like that. You have no idea want they do each day to try to help FMC. Since putting cameras in I have heard that they have caught quite a few people in the parking deck doing things they have no business. Have you heard about this. Most people don't want to hear the positive. They just like to talk about the negative. I stand firm on this. These are good people doing the very best they can with what they have. Maybe this will have a positive ending and they can hire better people that are more qualified. When they do I believe you will owe them an apology.I said my peers perceived them as being useless and unprofessional. In another post I said the two upper level management employees and/or whoever is over them. I've seen the cameras in the deck and thought it was a smart move. The only thing is this is another example of a poor decision. They only put the cameras in the stairwells. How will crimes or other bad things be caught on camera if they are not looking where most vandalisms and crimes take place? Where the cars are! I know there are good and bad in all departments. With nursing or most any other deparment you will not be hired in the first place or fired very quickly if you don't have proper ablility and training. As I've said before, There are only 5 or 6 people in the security department who can actually do the job of a security guard. Some of which were named in this forum. Some mentioned should not be in the positions they are in. If that is a "blanket statement" so be it. "Maybe this will have a positive ending and they can hire better people that are more qualified." This is our main objective. A positive ending where more qualified managers and guards can be hired at higher wages. Sometimes negative things have to be done to have a positive outcome.
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FMCRN Member
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Since the beginning of this post there have apparently been those who are security guards or their families who have been defending themselves or others on this forum. You have been defending security because you think things need to be drastically improved or because you believe myself and my peers are implying that you have done something morally wrong. There have been those who have posted about management playing on computers rather than working. We have not included this in our request for inquiry because we don't know if it is true or not. If it is true it is just another reason for a serious inquiry by administration. Myself and my peers are from different shifts and different entities of Floyd. We see daily the issues that we present. Those guards we know are qualified for the positions they are in should be happy that a group of employees are trying to improve their department. We don not think management makes wrong decisions on purpose. We think wrong decisions were and are made because they are not qualified for the positions they are in and/or because the FMC administration unknowingly allows these wrong decisions. We believe the responsibility for a professional security department at Floyd lies on the management of the department and the Floyd administration. We have stated our concerns to the Floyd Corporate Compliance department in writing because the concerns fall under the Standards of Business conduct under sections G and H. We post these issues on this forum to further the accountability of Floyd to it's own standards. This is our last comment on this issue. We would like to thank Rome News Wire for a place where concerned citizens can voice concerns that effect all of Floyd county and in the case of Floyd Medical, all of Northwest Georgia.
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oldman Member
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I think if i was that concerned about a problem i would be looking for other employment.
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Sbob Member 
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Anyone remember the name of the OLD GUY who was a security guard at FMC for..... ever.It might be Leon. He had to be 80 last time I saw him,which was several years ago now.He wore his pants high almost under his arms.He was still escorting people to their cars when he could hardly walk. I think he could mix it up pretty good ..........if necessary. I wonder why they pay real police & SO to work in the ER but pay so low for security guards.They could have off duty police & SO working all over FMC on all shifts if they would fund it. Real Security must not be high priority.
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mastersgte8 Member
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It's quite simple really. A off duty police officer is never really off. If he observes a violation of state law he has to act on it. It also means that in situations he has to think for himself and make decisions that some may not like or will be unpopular. Floyd Medical Center does not approve of the officers having tasers in the ER. But they cannot stop a officer from using it if that officer feels it will stop a situation or will prevent himself or others from being injured. A while back a subject pulled a box cutter on two armed deputies in the ER. If he would do that to them just think what he would do to the security guards there. The deputies were well within their rights to use deadly force in that situation, or for that matter a taser. To sum it up it's cheaper to keep unarmed civilians as security for the hospital in general.
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kaiser Soze Member 
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Most hospitals the size of Floyd and that have the level of trama center that Floyd has, also has hospital police (i.e. Floyd Medical Center Police) Grady, Mercer, etc. They would be a total seperate entity with their own command structure that answered to a CEO and the Board and even P.O.S.T. counsel for that matter. kind of like a Campus police like Berry College. It really is time to move in that direction.
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RNpara Member 
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Sbob wrote: Anyone remember the name of the OLD GUY who was a security guard at FMC for..... Old man leon keerce or something like that(not sure of the spelling) was actually in his 90's. he also was the only one to pull a gun on someone in the parking deck years ago and hit someone with his cane once, even in his old age he tried his best and was an asset to FMC. He has since passed away and i'm sure he is greatly missed.
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cross stitch girl Member 
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I worked at Floyd for years. I hate to hear that Leon died. I really liked that man.
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smarterthanyou Member 
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Who cares what they do on their computers??? Has anyone on here ever been attacked because security was too busy playing solitare to help you? I doubt that very seriously! I am at work and typing this now so you want to say my work ethic is bad? I won't deny there needs to be improvement and better funding of the department but the way you are portraying these guys is ridiculous.
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JustMe Member 
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smarterthanyou wrote: Who cares what they do on their computers??? Has anyone on here ever been attacked because security was too busy playing solitare to help you? I doubt that very seriously! I am at work and typing this now so you want to say my work ethic is bad? I won't deny there needs to be improvement and better funding of the department but the way you are portraying these guys is ridiculous.If you are at work and typing this now, and your boss has no problem with it then no it's not bad work ethic. If you are typing this now, and you are not supposed to go to the internet, or be online during work hours then yes you have a bad work ethic. Usually when more than one is portraying a person a certain way, they can't all be liars can they? 
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Janie2560 Member
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If those "real cops" as you refer to them that work in the ER are so wonderful and reliable how come the security guards get called to sit back there for the "real cops" when they are late or not there for their shift? Maybe because the security officers as well are willing to "jump up and handle whatever comes up or whoever starts it?" HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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SouthernRain Moderator 
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The only incident that I've ever had with security is one night when my husband was in the hospital, I had to leave pretty late to run home and let the dog out and as I was walking through the front lobby, I asked one of the security guards (there were two) if he would mind watching until I got to my car safely. Normally, I wouldn't even think of something like that because I'm pretty tough and would beat the snot out of someone that tried anything with me BUT my hubby was very sick and I was very tired from being there a week. Anyway, neither one of the security guards even got up and ACTED like they were going to keep an eye out. That was a little disconcerting.
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failedbelle Member 
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My only complaint is the parking deck. The employees have to park there and there have been many thefts. They finally installed cameras just this year but there used to be a security guard that stayed in the deck years ago. If you are going to make employees park in a secluded area for 8-12 hours that is not protected by security, why not have the area for employees only. Chances are that employees are not as likely to steal from each other. But to have the area open to anyone that wants to drive through at any time is asking for trouble. Just another way that Floyd shows how much it cares for it's employees safety and property
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smarterthanyou Member
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These guys aren't lazy and they aren't undertrained. A couple of them are former sheriffs. They aren't given hardly any power to do anything. If I had their job but were given the absolute minimal power to anything (which is what they have), my butt would be sitting in front of a computer typing this stuff all day long. Don't blame them for trying to pass the time in a VERY boring mostly powerless position, blame their superiors for underfunding and underutilizing the skills these men posess. I don't like authority and would rather not have a security guard watching me around every corner. Floyd is quite safe and doesn't really need that anyway. There need to be changes made in procedures, but not in personnel. Last edited on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 04:56 pm by smarterthanyou |
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