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don't have photoshop........................computer is slow enough as it is  RnPara...........I also said that the FMC Security needed improvement, I just have the knack at peavin' people off I reckon.............................sheesh Maybe Jerry should ban me 
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Wild H Woman Member 
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romegasir wrote: don't have photoshop........................computer is slow enough as it is LOL If that were to happen, you could spend even MORE time at that "other" forum.... prolly driving several posters over the edge.
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ROP Member 
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RNpara, I may not be able to bite someone, but my trigger finger still works. Be careful outside there.
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I love him going over there. I like to fire them when I can.
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romegasir Member
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believe it or not, I'm gettin' bored........................thought I wouldn't ever, but yeah,........bored 
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RNpara Member 
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no RGS we love you too even if you do peeeze people off, you are kinda like our brother that stays in the pokey all the time but we still bail you out cause your our family LOL
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Wild H Woman Member
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RNpara wrote: no RGS we love you too even if you do peeeze people off, you are kinda like our brother that stays in the pokey all the time but we still bail you out cause your our family LOL ROFL Now there's a ringing endorsement for ya, RGS!
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FMCRN Member
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I am not a "poser". I believe it is clear by other posters who didn't know who the director of security is. My car has not been towed. In the past security did go through training. This is no longer the case. It seems that a lot of people are taking this personally. This is not a personal matter. This is a professional matter. This has nothing to do with being for or against. It has nothing to do with friend or foe. It has to do with a medical facility which has taken every department to the next level except security. Myself and my peers have presented our concerns to FMC administration in writing. The ball is now in their court.
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kaiser Soze Member 
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Yeah, this to some has been a popularity contest and taking up for people they feel sorry for. This is not high school and who fits in. This is about someone who can't see what is really going on because the top 3 in charge are always in the office having solitare tournements and surfing the web and that is common knowledge. I don't care what you say. You simply can not justify hours on end of game playing on the clock and even game playing on overtime(JM)! I think the Security folks do a great job now since all they are expected to do 95% of the time is be gophers and couriers. But Security and training for it is lacking! Call it what it is!
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prisoner#1 Member
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Deaglos wrote: Two places I will always argue guns should never ever be except by trained agents (police or guard) is hospitals and schools. those are two of the places where citizens may need to carry firearms the most, what are the odd of another Columnbine or Virginia Tech if the faculty is required to carry a concealed firearm, it seems those intent on killing have no intention on reading the signs that say "gun free school zone", the shooting at columnbine was more than an hour in the process, how many faculty members could have made a shot and saved some innocent lives there's 2 stories here that are pretty interesting, if you search through google you'll find the worst act of violence to ever have occured was in Beslan Russia, 350 people lost their lives, 400 more were wounded because guns were not allowed in the schools http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14729 Last edited on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 10:38 pm by prisoner#1 |
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Kit Carson Member
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One again I happen to know the top three people in security and yes it does sound like a vendetta against them. I also know they work really hard trying to improve their department. Call it what you will, but if you don't work with them or for them exactly how do you know what they do or don't do. Who ever your informant is, is wrong. They still have to go through proper training. If you had a problem with security why didn't you just go through them and tell them your problems. Have you never heard of the chain of command. You first talk with the party in charge and if that doesn't get you anywhere then go further.
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kaiser Soze Member
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Kit Carson wrote: One again I happen to know the top three people in security and yes it does sound like a vendetta against them. I also know they work really hard trying to improve their department. Call it what you will, but if you don't work with them or for them exactly how do you know what they do or don't do. Who ever your informant is, is wrong. They still have to go through proper training. If you had a problem with security why didn't you just go through them and tell them your problems. Have you never heard of the chain of command. You first talk with the party in charge and if that doesn't get you anywhere then go further. I have seen it many times with my own eyes in that downstairs office! And, its not a vendetta, its the truth and calling a spade a spade! Using the chain of command gets you on the least desireable shift or fired. Kit Carson, you are just quessing what this is. All the IT dept. has to do is look at the computers and it will tell the truth and there will be no more quessing. Anyone want to roll the dice and search for some truth?
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FMCRN Member
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Kit Carson wrote: One again I happen to know the top three people in security and yes it does sound like a vendetta against them. I also know they work really hard trying to improve their department. Call it what you will, but if you don't work with them or for them exactly how do you know what they do or don't do. Who ever your informant is, is wrong. They still have to go through proper training. If you had a problem with security why didn't you just go through them and tell them your problems. Have you never heard of the chain of command. You first talk with the party in charge and if that doesn't get you anywhere then go further.This is not a vendetta. I'm sorry you feel that it is. I went through the proper channels for several years to no avail. Go back to my first post and read it. Can you honestly say all the issues I brought up are false?
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Kit Carson Member
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When you call the useless and unprofessional, yes I think you are wrong. They are not useless. You know I have been a patient at FMC before and have had family that has been there. There are good and bad in all departments. Including the nursing staff. Does that mean ALL the nursing staff are useless and unprofessional. My answer to that is no. You can't just make a blanket statement like that. You have no idea want they do each day to try to help FMC. Since putting cameras in I have heard that they have caught quite a few people in the parking deck doing things they have no business. Have you heard about this. Most people don't want to hear the positive. They just like to talk about the negative. I stand firm on this. These are good people doing the very best they can with what they have. Maybe this will have a positive ending and they can hire better people that are more qualified. When they do I believe you will owe them an apology.
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Janie2560 Member
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I agree with you completely Kathy - I too have known two separate people who work in security at FMC and to my knowledge everyone on their staff is trained, professional and courteous. They tell me stories of things they have had to deal with as well as frustrations of their own -- they can only work with what they have! These individuals are not to blame that their superiors will not ALLOW them to carry protection. It is a requirement of their job that they try to intervene with situations in a way that they do not use force unless absolutely necessary. (As a matter of fact one guy in security told me he had to go to a training class on how to intervene "NICELY" without causing a bigger stir. Their job is not to respond to a situation and end up in a fist fight - it is to diffuse a situation as safely as possible for all involved. Imagine what might happen if they did use force and did not really need to --- then they would STILL be the bad guys!! Security at FMC consists of being a gopher -- they do courier work and respond to every situation every nurse and other employee cannot or does not feel comfortable handling without assistance. God forbid they not be around when someone needs them, but look how you talk about them when they are around, working with what they have got. I wonder what some of them would say about the attitudes of nurses and other employees (and their uniforms? lol). People are TOO quick to scrutinize and form opinions based on exactly that -- OPINION, NOT FACT. I have been a patient at FMC as well as a visitor, and God knows every nurse there is not smiling and courteous!!!!!! EVERY department, EVERY patient, and EVERY employee has separate issues to deal with. Don't be so quick to stigmatize what you don't know.
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