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 Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 03:24 am
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They need more employees like you SassyKate!!:D

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 Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 06:54 am
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I work for FMC as well part-time and i can tell you that the WHOLE hospital is not bad. There are some wonderful people that work there, but in the same sence there are some of the worst also, just depends on where you work and who is working at the time. I can tell you that i got the pleasure of meeting Jimmy this weekend and he is a really nice professional guy like you all said, he was checking on us often and he really is an asset to the organiztion. My only problem is that people like him and some others just get forgotten and treated like crap by the higher ups because they do their jobs and do not get in trouble. I stand by my word that the upper management at FMC does not care about the little man, all they care about is the bottom dollar, but then again what do i know right? Besides i've only been there 10 years and have only been crapped on 5 or 6 times, not bad i don't guess:shock: 

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 07:10 pm
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Kit Carson wrote: If you think for one minute that security has never had a knife or weapon pulled against them you are wrong.  Who do you think use to watch ER?  To my knowledge they never had tazers, pepper spray or any other weapon to retaliate with.  They had to use their wits and common sense.  I don't think there was ever an officer that was hurt badly.  I am sure they had knocks and bruises.  They didn't sit in the ER and flirt with all the nurses.  I have heard rumors about the police in the ER and their groupies.  Why do you think they have had patients get away?  Once again, I am not talking about all the officers.  I wont' make a blanket statement like that.
You just did make a blanket statement about officers. It is unfortunate that security officers don't have tools to work with but that not a police officers fault. It seems to be a management problem, if they choose not to give thier security tools to work with. I have niticed the officers in the E.R. they do more than just sit. They assist nurses upon request...to lift patients, escort patients to the floor when admitted. They also assist security when requested with unruly individuals on hospital grounds.. I don't see a problem with security v. police.... The patients that get away normally get away while the officers are dealing with other issues in the E.R.

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 07:25 pm
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Janie2560 wrote: First of all the police officers here in Rome and Floyd Co work ten hour shifts - not twelve.  If they do extra, side work, it is their choice.  I understand many people in law enforcement work second jobs to support their families and that is honorable and oftentimes tough, however, the excuse of being tired should not be an excuse for being late for assigned duty.  So yea - thought of that and poor poor pitiful them
What fantasy land do you live in? Not all officers work ten hour shifts, however some do and others work 12 hours and sometimes more. Did you know Fantasy Jane that when an officer gets off duty they are not really off. What I mean is when they are on thier way home and run across a vehicle that needs assistance they stop and help..for no pay..Just part of the job I guess...The officers that work part time jobs is to support thier family, sometimes they work more than one part time job to make ends meet..They D**n sure not getting rich....I agree no one should be late for a job but sometimes they can't help themselves...They are busy looking for a lost child or answering a call that requires a little OT. you know they ones that have a child as a hostage or someone walking around with an Ak-47 in neighborhood.

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 Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 07:27 pm
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I was also told that if an officer gets hurt while working in the E.R. they are not covered by workers comp...

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 07:09 pm
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I noticed the Floyd management topic had some positive results. I wonder if anything has changed in security because of this topic?

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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 01:05 am
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It seems the corporate compliance plan at Floyd is BS. Nothing whatsoever has been changed in security and safety. Our report was filed over two weeks ago. This may seem like no big deal to them. They apparently don't realize how many nurses they will lose over their ignorance of a legitimate problem.

Here is a quote from a corporate executive about management placement. It is not talking about Floyd but it seems to fit right in with what the problem is in security and apparently materials management:

"In a corporate climate, departmental structure and the management thereof are key to success, organization, and healthy morale. When placement of managers is accomplished by strict standards of proven leadership skills, experience, and training a proper departmental structure will be the result. Problems arise when the placement policies are not exercised by all departments in the organization. Most often this is because administrators prioritize their attention on departments which are deemed more necessary than others. For example, if service departments such as security, cleaning, and building maintenance are placed low on an administrator’s list of priorities because they do not make money for the organization, the whole organization will suffer. These service departments are the backbone of the organization and directly effect the public’s view of the organization as a whole. These departments should have the same departmental structure and manager placement standards as all other departments.
Actual example of improper departmental structure and manager placement: In a service department of a large organization the director was put in place due to the former director leaving without notice. No standards of proven leadership or training were adhered to. The new director placed individuals in management positions according to his opinion. Due to lack of experience and leadership skills, the director got some right and others wrong. The major mistake in placement by the director was appointment of an assistant. Some people are born leaders and some are not. In this situation neither were leaders. The assistant the director chose was a very controlling individual, likened to a dictator but with little experience or training for the position. The assistant even controlled the director. Almost every decision made by director was proposed by mood or controlling whim of the assistant. The director, not being a leader and not having placement standards to adhere to, made his best assumption and chose someone with a control problem. The end result was a department whose morale crumbled along with appearance, purpose, and everything in between.  In other words “The Blind Leading the Blind”."




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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 04:03 pm
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inchanter wrote: I was also told that if an officer gets hurt while working in the E.R. they are not covered by workers comp...
I don't know if that is a policy or not, but I can assure you, if they are working in a police uniform with their agency's permission, and they get injured, they are covered as  a matter of law.  Now whether or not the Agency's carrier has some type of subrogation agreement with the hospital is another matter.

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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 05:10 pm
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ok so billT, if you're working there and you break a finger or two wrestling with some idiot...................................................................................do you file the work comp claim with your agency knowing that they will revoke every other officer's permission to work there?????????????????????????????????????????????  You've been around long enough to know how the game is played..............................................

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 Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 08:50 pm
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RGS   I think I can read between the lines  thanks for the answer

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 Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 01:25 am
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romegasir wrote: ok so billT, if you're working there and you break a finger or two wrestling with some idiot...................................................................................do you file the work comp claim with your agency knowing that they will revoke every other officer's permission to work there?????????????????????????????????????????????  You've been around long enough to know how the game is played..............................................
I totally agree with what you say.  My only point here is that comp coverage must be provided, no matter who says it's not. Now whether it gets filed or not....I never filed a claim but never had a catastrophic claim either.

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