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clark3182002 Member
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i guess it would all be fine if he was a county commisioner then he could just procrastinate and get it all cleaned up in 4 more years
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coggers420 Moderator 
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spice..please send me another contact # if TJ has dropped out
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Spice Moderator 
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clark3182002 wrote: i guess it would all be fine if he was a county commisioner then he could just procrastinate and get it all cleaned up in 4 more years That's a pretty good comparison. At the very least, any cleaning we did or will do can't hurt the neighborhood.
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GTW Member
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This is a valiant effort you folks are doing, but Rusty doesn't deserve it. He doesn't even own the house, his mother still does - his invalid mother that he kicked out a few years ago. He hasn't had utilities in the house for years because his stepfather that he also kicked out of the house stopped paying for it. His stepfather died a few years ago, and when Rusty found out he had cancer, he said he hoped he died a slow and painful death. His mother now is in the care of his younger brother and his girlfriend. Rusty won't go see her because he's already stolen anything of value that his mother had. Rusty's mental problems stem from a long history of drug use, not injury. His family are scared to death of him and won't lift a finger to help him because of his past behavior and how he's treated his mother. It's nice to see such an outpouring of support, but if you knew the real Rusty, you wouldn't be so quick to help. His misery is of his own making.
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GTW Member
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Sassy Girl, Rusty wouldn't live in the projects because he feels that is beneath him. And no, he didn't have insurance on the house, and like I said earlier, he never paid his own utilities, his stepfather did for a while until he died. Rusty will not change - he is too set in his ways and while your efforts are to be commended, they are futile. Why don't you ask Rusty why he hasn't visited his mother or bothered to help his brother in any way to take care of her.
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dew Member
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This is about 95% percent true, The house will soon be in his name. These were drawn up by a local attorney,and a local bank and his brother and mother have agreed to sign it over to him. He did have electricity which he did pay. He chose not to have cable and gas and phone. also i feel the project is not just for Rusty, but to get the house back to a order where this matches his neighborhood. Also for some of the concerns of the neighborhood, the moped was not pawned for drugs, he gave it back to the owner,which was the pastor of the church. And it isnt against the law not to have utilities. Rusty actually has good credit, and is receiving unemployment and food stamps so please be patient and give him a chance. dew Last edited on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 05:41 pm by dew |
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dew Member
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why should he live in the projects now, The house is on the way to recovery. It will actually better and cheaper on the tax payers. And the property values are going to stay where they are.
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GTW Member
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95% true? Try 100% true. His mother is an invalid, she can't sign anything, and his brother wants nothing to do with him because Rusty has been nothing but hateful and contempt towards his family for years. Why don't you call Alan and see what he has to say about his poor pitiful brother? Why don't you ask Rusty why he doesn't lift a finger to help his mother?
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tereca33 Moderator 
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ok folks, i can understand your concern GTW, and we have taken everything that everyone has said into consideration. maybe since he is getting mental treatment, he will be able to turn his life around. maybe all he needed was for someone to help him get started with treatment and getting his house back together. i do not judge people by their past, only their future. although his family may have reasons not to help him, that doesnt stop people in the community to want the house to be brought back up to standards. i do believe Rusty goes to court tomorrow about the house. we will find out more after he goes. the only thing people did this past weekend was clean some of the stuff/trash/debris out of his house and yard. we are waiting on the court to see if we will be able to finish it.
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dew Member
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I understand your frustration, but I have talk to Alan.and his mother can sighn stuff, during the process of getting house in his name she had co signed on a loan for another relative and that had to be cleared up. This is not just for Rusty this for the neighborhood.
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GTW Member
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I'll believe Rusty getting mental health help when I see it. He is, and has always been a contemptuous manipulative mooch. Maybe he can change, who knows? I doubt it. You mentioned his mother co-signed a loan for a relative? Whose that relative? Funny thing, his mother has been a bed-ridden vegetable whose been in the care of Alan's girlfriend for years. Sweet woman - not even related and still takes care of her. Where's Rusty been during all that time?
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Spice Moderator
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GTW wrote: I'll believe Rusty getting mental health help when I see it. He is, and has always been a contemptuous manipulative mooch. I'm not trying to be rude here but you seem very angry and your question about who the relative would come under the heading of "none of your business", unless you are a family member and only then if the person co signing the loan or the one receiving it wanted you to know. Your assesment of the situation may be entirely true, that does not negate the fact that there has to be some type of arangements made for Rusty, no matter what your opinion of him and that is what we are trying to do. Would you rather see him wandering the neighborhood homeless?
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GTW Member
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I'm not an angry person at all. It makes me angry that he is using good people like you. No, I wouldn't want to see Rusty roaming the neighborhood homeless, I would like to see him in a mental facility where he belongs. He has done absolutely nothing for his mother, except steal and steal from her for many years - and the money from that property should go towards her care - she is currently being taken care of - to a big financial burden - by his brother. Any loan that his mother could co-sign on should be to help Alan, not Rusty.
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romegasir Member 
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gtw, it's always gonna be like that............... in families, the worst child gets the most attention and most of the family resources when they're older.......................... in society it is no different.............
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Spice Moderator
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GTW wrote: I'm not an angry person at all. It makes me angry that he is using good people like you. GTW, I appreciate your input. You are not the only one who has voiced concerns and that was the reason we requested that he have an evaualtion before we started. None of us knows that what we are doing will be a longterm help to him, we do know that it certainly can't hurt the neighborhood to have the place cleaned up and looking livable again. This is a opportunity for Rusty to get his life turned around and what he does with that opportunity is up to him, just as it is with all of us. My daughter used to say. "If you live with one foot in yesterday and one foot in tomorrow, you are P***ing all over today". She died as result of an accident in September, so you see, we cannot depend on tomorrow, we have to live for today and hope for tomorrow. I've always heard that a leopard can't change his spots, but I had an uncle who was an alcoholic, or as we said back then before everything became a disease, a drunk. He wreaked several cars, even got drunk and while smoking in bed, badly burned an army hospital. None of that stopped him. When he was 40 years old, he married (for the first and only time)a woman whom he had gotten pregnant. He quit drinking. Never touched another drop, got a good job that he retired from and passed away at the age of 87 a few years ago. None of us knows if Rusty will stay clean or not, we can only offer him the opportunity.
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