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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 01:20 am |
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charles88
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 02:00 am |
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BillT962 wrote: How about we not impose the death penalty on someone unless your life, or the life of someone else is in danger. Let's don't cap 'em for stealing a lawnmower. Even Juries have a hard time with that one.
you can wait, and we will read your obituary. i will defend my home and family, and we can read there obituary.
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 02:09 am |
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 02:12 am |
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I don't know about you but a lot of crime and stealing is happening in the daytime. All you have to do is go by a metal recycling center and you will see what I mean. Not everyone is taking stolen goods but a $200 car bringing in $1500 worth of new metal is a little suspicious. Heck you might not have an air conditioner when you return home from work. These people go under your house and steal your water lines now. Surveillance cameras work perfect though.
The response to the gun issue could be taken any way you want. I carry all the time. You never know when or whom you might encounter. Here lately you need more than one gun or at least extra ammo. Times are very bad so look around and see. If you are going to carry a gun at least know how to shoot.
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romegeorgiaman
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 09:45 am |
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| there is no wrong... on firing a warning shot first. unless you live in the city, where discharging a firearm in the city limits is unlawful. there are different circumstances involving trespassers v/s burglars/home invaders. use discretion in any circumstance, before shooting at someone. always remember, that if indicted, you will have to provide all details regarding the actual events of the shooting you involve yourself in, including possible liability to the /burglar/victim. yep, its a slippery slope... dont get yourself put in prison....because you shot first and asked questions later..... juries are sort of quirky like that.......it can go either way.....especially if they dont believe your side of the story....all the events dont quite add up.... thats the beauty of a jury of ''your peers''... and before you know it...you went from a homeowner defending your property,....to defendant in a homicide case... facing prison time.... just use discretion..thats all....and always remember to put the weapon up when the police arrive.... (or did you remember to call them while you were playing dirty harry in your living room at 2am?) Last edited on Sat May 17th, 2008 09:56 am by romegeorgiaman
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BillT962
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 10:49 am |
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charles88 wrote: BillT962 wrote: How about we not impose the death penalty on someone unless your life, or the life of someone else is in danger. Let's don't cap 'em for stealing a lawnmower. Even Juries have a hard time with that one.
you can wait, and we will read your obituary. i will defend my home and family, and we can read there obituary.
I really thought my position was clear. **IF** they are presenting a threat, then you deal with the threat. Should you shoot them for any other reason, we may read their obituary, but we will read your "EF" number (department of corrections ID). Let's hope that neither happens
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BillT962
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 10:52 am |
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romegeorgiaman wrote: there is no wrong... on firing a warning shot first. unless you live in the city, where discharging a firearm in the city limits is unlawful. there are different circumstances involving trespassers v/s burglars/home invaders. use discretion in any circumstance, before shooting at someone. always remember, that if indicted, you will have to provide all details regarding the actual events of the shooting you involve yourself in, including possible liability to the /burglar/victim. yep, its a slippery slope... dont get yourself put in prison....because you shot first and asked questions later..... juries are sort of quirky like that.......it can go either way.....especially if they dont believe your side of the story....all the events dont quite add up.... thats the beauty of a jury of ''your peers''... and before you know it...you went from a homeowner defending your property,....to defendant in a homicide case... facing prison time.... just use discretion..thats all....and always remember to put the weapon up when the police arrive.... (or did you remember to call them while you were playing dirty harry in your living room at 2am?) well said Sir. I must admit that I have absolutely no problem with dispatching an intruder in my living room at 0200. I simply will not back shoot him as he runs away with my weed eater.
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 03:27 pm |
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| has it ever occured to you some people do not have 20 20 vision. and i have taught english before so i know how to talk write and spell.
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BillT962
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 03:30 pm |
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daffodill333 wrote: has it ever occured to you some people do not have 20 20 vision. and i have taught english before so i know how to talk write and spell.
if directed at me, I have no idea what I may have said to bring this on?
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 03:43 pm |
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| i was talking about something that happened to a young boy that has worked hard to buy things he wanted and 2 day s before a freind and a guy they think is from ecuador or another country. came by to visit so 2 nights later . he and his mom came home from work and the store somebody had kicked in a steel door and took all his expensive equipment in basement. you can bet this 6ft.1 young man would of hurt someone. if i had been there i would have scared them to death anyway. but you know what somebody knew exactly where thet were. we are installing cameras today. a got a bad pit bull. lol
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 03:56 pm |
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| I WAS TOLD A GUY PAWNED THE TITLE TO HIS CAR AND THEN TOOK IT TO THE SCRAP METAL PLACE TO HAVE IT CRUSHED LOL
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kennysgirl
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 04:19 pm |
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I feel the pain of wanting to defend the belongings you have worked so hard for. While I was at work some dope smokers that were friends with my ex and had been to my home and knew my work schedule came over and help me clean out my storage building.
I installed a camera system and starting sleeping my gun beside my bed incase they decided to come back at night while my son and I were sleeping. I have no problem at all with filling a meth head full of lead if they are trying to get into my house while I am there, no matter what they are taking. It's my stuff, I paid for it, and no one has a right to take if from me. Ask for it and I would give it, but stealing no way.
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 05:11 pm |
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I have a lawn mower that cost me $12,000. If I catch you trying to take it, you willl leave peacefully or may not leave, Just my 12guage worth.
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BillT962
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 05:41 pm |
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I guess we can disagree on what level of theft is worth taking a life. I have just never felt the legal or exigent imperative to take a life for that reason. Perhaps some of my Brethren and **Sistren** LOL may offer another slant. I limit my deadly force decisions to life threatening or serious bodily injury situations. Forcible felonies in other words.
I do hope that OP and RGS as well as others in the field will weigh in
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Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 05:51 pm |
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ROP wrote: I have a lawn mower that cost me $12,000. If I catch you trying to take it, you willl leave peacefully or may not leave, Just my 12guage worth.
I have to agree with Bill. I know that must be one really nice lawn mower, but I wouldn't be willing to kill for it either. I just can't justify taking somebody's life for a lawnmower, no matter how much it cost. In addition, I value my sleep.... A LOT! I haven't ever had to kill anybody in my entire life, so I am certain the first one is going to be a life-changing experience. I remember reading Stoker's post on this forum concerning this, and I believe that he is spot on with his statement. I'll be really mad, but I'll replace the mower...... but, sleep and peace-of-mind is worth way more to me than $12,000.
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