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Jess Member 
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So we can all agree to keep the families and personal stuff out of it. Done and done. More time for issues! I'm curious about this reputation she has for being a reformist and wondering how valid that is. There's the whole bridge thing, which doesn't sit well with me. The people around here who hate the SPLOST are frequently concerned about the earmarked dollars going into other projects, and rightly so. Seems like a similar situation. Also, for example, you know Ted Stevens? The Alaska senator who has been indicted on a bunch of counts of being a selfish jerk? Guess who was the director, until 3 years ago, of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc" 527 fundraising group? That's right, Palin. Also, he helped her campaign enormously and they filmed some ads together. You can find them on youtube--the campaign buried them after the VP pick was announced. I found this information on the Washington Post website. I'm holding my original position that essentially none of this matters. People do not vote for Vice Presidents. But it is fun to discuss! Last edited on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 10:34 pm by Jess |
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TheOriginalGaGirl Member
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For all the comments acting like I was insinuating anything bad about Palin or her daugher by simply posting what the news was reporting - if you must know, I too had a child when I was 17 and unwed. Twelve years later, we are happily married with 2 very beautiful and intelligent kids, a home that we own, a pool, 2 nice vehicles. 2 good jobs, a couple of dogs, and a cat. With that said, I was simply paraphrasing the story. If you read the story, they said the rumor going around about Palin's son really being her daugher's child was why she came out public with the story. I too don't think her daughter's life should be an issue although I do find it ironic that her stance on sex education is that she believes in abstinence-only education. Her statement on saying that her daughter was going to need a lot of help and support from her (on top of her having a 5-month-old special needs child) does make me wonder how in the world her mind could be on having a job as important and time-consuming as vice president and how she can juggle all that effectively at a time with so many other things that should be priorities to her, but that is her choice.
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TheOriginalGaGirl Member
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Spice wrote: TheOriginalGaGirl wrote:http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIMJWupyWNmvU3UX2aGhICmZrQ_wD92U1TN00 If you read the link, you would see that I wasn't saying there was any truth to the rumor. The rumor that they said was going around (which wasn't too big b/c I hadn't heard it) was the reason they went public with the pregnancy - to show that it wasn't true.
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stoker Member 
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TheOriginalGaGirl wrote: Her statement on saying that her daughter was going to need a lot of help and support from her (on top of her having a 5-month-old special needs child) does make me wonder how in the world her mind could be on having a job as important and time-consuming as vice president and how she can juggle all that effectively at a time with so many other things that should be priorities to her, but that is her choice. And being the Governor of Alaska isn't time consuming? Keep in mind that she is, if she gets elected, will have more medical resources, domestic help, and other assistance than a State Governor could ever hope to have.
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TheOriginalGaGirl Member
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stoker wrote: TheOriginalGaGirl wrote:Her statement on saying that her daughter was going to need a lot of help and support from her (on top of her having a 5-month-old special needs child) does make me wonder how in the world her mind could be on having a job as important and time-consuming as vice president and how she can juggle all that effectively at a time with so many other things that should be priorities to her, but that is her choice. That is true except I don't know how much I agree that Governor of Alaska is that time consuming (probably a lot less time consuming than most regular jobs we have to work to keep up) but it is true she'll have a lot of resources and domestic help as vice president, but if she is such a family-oriented person, I can't imagine her wanting "domestic help" to be the one taking care of her family.
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stoker Member
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TheOriginalGaGirl wrote: stoker wrote:TheOriginalGaGirl wrote:Her statement on saying that her daughter was going to need a lot of help and support from her (on top of her having a 5-month-old special needs child) does make me wonder how in the world her mind could be on having a job as important and time-consuming as vice president and how she can juggle all that effectively at a time with so many other things that should be priorities to her, but that is her choice. I'll quit. Apparently you have never been in a management position. Looks good from the bottom but that isn't always necessarily the case.
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msla Member 
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This is why women never allow women to succeed unless they have no children. Well, heck, unless they have no husband or friends. If they do, they are not paying others any attention. Or, not enough attention. Or, not the attention the other person needs and deserves. My opinion: this FAMILY seems to handle things as best as they can and that's all we can do anyway. The father doesn't run away; he stays active. Hmmm... Wish other fathers would do more of that since we know that the majority of American fathers do not stay at home much less stay involved. Palin is setting an example for all her children whether she becomes the VP or not. How valuable. I thought a lot of this discussion about working mothers was settled years ago but every time a woman breaks new ground, the same argument surfaces and the woman is condemned. No wonder women are the last to get equal pay, time off, health care and etc. I get so disgusted I could scream!
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Spice Moderator 
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TheOriginalGaGirl wrote: Spice wrote:TheOriginalGaGirl wrote:http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIMJWupyWNmvU3UX2aGhICmZrQ_wD92U1TN00 I was by no means putting you down. The statement just sounded funny. Sorry if you misunderstood.
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Frigid Member
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There is no telling what will come out about all candidates between now and election time. Everyone has a past and everyone who has children is even more vulnerable to attacks. No matter how good you raise them you only have so much control over them when they reach a certain age. I'm with everyone else who said personal issues should be left out of politics. The thing is they will still be brought up by the media.
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fullmoonrising Member 
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Frigid wrote: There is no telling what will come out about all candidates between now and election time. Everyone has a past and everyone who has children is even more vulnerable to attacks. No matter how good you raise them you only have so much control over them when they reach a certain age. I heard that the dems are trying to dig up past history on Palin's husband about a DUI issue 20 years ago. Good lord, I heard Obama being interviewed yesterday and openly admitting to his drug use when he was a teen, and he didn't just say marijuanna. Remember George Bush's DUI charge, they tried to make it stick, but it blew over. I think it is admirable that Obama puts that out on the table and talks openly. It shows compassion and understanding of human fraility. While it would be nice to have leaders with strong character traits, it's hard to find people who are lilly white, no pun intended, in this day and age or any age. We are all human and fall short, right? Maybe by having open discussion of these things we usually sweep under the carpet, or try to hide in the closet, we can make some positive steps and begin teaching our children better and developing character traits in them at an early age. On my soapbox tonight, guys! And y'all I hope to goodness, this Sarah has what it takes to stand up to the hurricane force storm that is hitting her right now after todays news of her daughter! This will be a true test for her! I loved Obama's comments today, that was the high road, a road that needs to be taken more often in matters of politics and life!
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WestRomeMommy Member
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/01/obama_tells_press_to_back_off.html I am quickly becoming a fan of McCain/Palin, and although I have never been a supporter of Obama, I think he showed great character today when responding to the news of Palin's daughter's pregnancy. Here is a link to the article I read.
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Spice Moderator
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I agree that what he said does show a great deal of character.
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Deaglos Member 
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I still bet Mccain is very ticked right now over the prego bit and now the investigation into her firing the state police chief becuase he would not fire her ex-bro in-law. I still say vote Paris.
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treelimb Member 
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stoker wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA!!! That was cool."I'll quit". you are so right it is wrong!! Very well put and NO I am not being derogative toward anyone- I merely recognize that which stoker is referring to and no i have not read the posts after this one as of yet. management- It is not for everyone, inclusive of an individual w/a degree like me. I'll stick with the less stressfull and laugh at (with) those stressing during the most inappropriate times. Someone once posted I am warped like that. Ya'll don't believe that I am sure.
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