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Wild H Woman Member 
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NewsChick wrote: endlessgrace99 wrote:Listening to all these opinions makes me thing of living back in the old days during lynch mobs. I understand that people and the press, have the freedom of speech, but what happened to being an American, and being INNOCENT until proven guilty. In all fairness, the 17 year-old's name was also included in the romenewswire piece in the link I posted... although, his mother's name was not.
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Wild H Woman wrote: NewsChick wrote:endlessgrace99 wrote:Listening to all these opinions makes me thing of living back in the old days during lynch mobs. I understand that people and the press, have the freedom of speech, but what happened to being an American, and being INNOCENT until proven guilty. You are correct. HOWEVER, the story on romenewswire is "courtesy of 11alive" -- it is the their story. I have not mentioned the mother's name, and will not.
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sweetapril73 Member 
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NewsChick wrote: Wild H Woman wrote:By all means, let's PROTECT her since she did such a great job at protecting these children. It wouldn't bother me a bit to release her name, she's obviously unfit and I would want to know if there were a chance that I was thinking of hiring her as a sitter. (Not me personally, I have no need for a sitter) I also have no remorse for her, she was hired to CARE for these children and she left that job to other people all the time it sounds like so if her name gets exposed then so be it. Poor her????NewsChick wrote:endlessgrace99 wrote:Listening to all these opinions makes me thing of living back in the old days during lynch mobs. I understand that people and the press, have the freedom of speech, but what happened to being an American, and being INNOCENT until proven guilty. 
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WestRomeMommy Member
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I am still so sad today about all of this. I did pull my child when I felt uncomfortable with the amount of time she was gone and with how the center was run when she was gone. I do remember being told that she and her "helpers" were ALL licensed, so she was covered as far as leaving them. I am NOT saying she was right...remember, I pulled my kid out too! Mine stayed while I was in college, so most days I picked him up well before her boys returned home. I have no worries now, as my youngest one is at Westminster Christian Academy, and it is the most awesome place I can imagine. That's probably why their waiting list is about double what their capacity is! I know, according to some of you, shame on me for putting my kids in daycare at all, but someone has to teach your kids once they go to school! Sorry I had to throw that in there, but I tend to get offended when I feel people criticize me for doing what is best for MY family. Now...off my soap box and back on topic! 
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devotion Member
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I am concerned, due to the suspect's age, if he understood exactly what he was admitting to. I have heard many times that individuals were pressured by the police to admit guilt when the suspect was actually innocent. I am not saying this is the case here, but I am concerned that both families may be going through hell over a teenager being pressured by the police. It would be interesting to hear first hand, from both parties involved, as to what they say happened. Obviously an attorney was present during the suspect's questioning as I would assume that the parents of the suspect would have insisted an attorney be present since this is such a critical issue. Could this be a possible misunderstanding from a child's telling of what transpired? What I mean by that is I haven't heard the "victim's" age, but the "victim" was obviously a small child, and I am curious what he or she says took place and how the child's story was interpreted by adults and authorities. I totally agree that the suspect's mother should have been at home since this was her job, and she was obligated to watch over these children. I also feel for any of you who have personally experienced this type of issue. I can only imagine how hard that must be. In regards to this matter, I must wait for all evidence to be given, not just what the police say has happened, before I can form an opinion of guilt or innocence.
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WestRomeMommy Member
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My child may not be "typical" but by the time he was 14 months old (that's when he stayed there) he was WELL capable of telling me things that he did while he was in her care. So, yes, I would take a child's word! Last edited on Thu Aug 7th, 2008 10:35 pm by WestRomeMommy |
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Wild H Woman Member
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WestRomeMommy wrote: I am still so sad today about all of this. I did pull my child when I felt uncomfortable with the amount of time she was gone and with how the center was run when she was gone. I do remember being told that she and her "helpers" were ALL licensed, so she was covered as far as leaving them. I am NOT saying she was right...remember, I pulled my kid out too! Mine stayed while I was in college, so most days I picked him up well before her boys returned home. I have no worries now, as my youngest one is at Westminster Christian Academy, and it is the most awesome place I can imagine. That's probably why their waiting list is about double what their capacity is! I know, according to some of you, shame on me for putting my kids in daycare at all, but someone has to teach your kids once they go to school! Sorry I had to throw that in there, but I tend to get offended when I feel people criticize me for doing what is best for MY family. Now...off my soap box and back on topic! I'm not sure what was said that put you on the defensive for your decision to use daycare... maybe I missed it. Anyhow, sometimes daycare is the only option. I was a single mom for a while with no family in the area and my friends were working, too. I had to work and I had to use a daycare for my child. I also tried to find the best, most qualified babysitter that I could afford. Look, we can make conscientous decisions regarding our children, but sometimes the people we expose our children to are not who we thought they were.... and that doesn't just stop with daycare workers. Evil can disguise itself in people that we often mistakenly trust... It runs the gamut from pastors, teachers, friends, and sometimes even our own family members. All we can do as parents is just make the best decisions that we can for our kids... there are no guarantees.
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WestRomeMommy wrote: I am still so sad today about all of this. I did pull my child when I felt uncomfortable with the amount of time she was gone and with how the center was run when she was gone. I do remember being told that she and her "helpers" were ALL licensed, so she was covered as far as leaving them. I am NOT saying she was right...remember, I pulled my kid out too! Mine stayed while I was in college, so most days I picked him up well before her boys returned home. I have no worries now, as my youngest one is at Westminster Christian Academy, and it is the most awesome place I can imagine. That's probably why their waiting list is about double what their capacity is! I know, according to some of you, shame on me for putting my kids in daycare at all, but someone has to teach your kids once they go to school! Sorry I had to throw that in there, but I tend to get offended when I feel people criticize me for doing what is best for MY family. Now...off my soap box and back on topic!I can't imagine anybody saying "shame on you for putting your kids in daycare". We do what we have to do. There's nothing wrong with daycare, it's just nowadays it's hard to find a good one. Glad you found one! 
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devotion wrote: I am concerned, due to the suspect's age, if he understood exactly what he was admitting to. I have heard many times that individuals were pressured by the police to admit guilt when the suspect was actually innocent. I am not saying this is the case here, but I am concerned that both families may be going through hell over a teenager being pressured by the police. It would be interesting to hear first hand, from both parties involved, as to what they say happened. Obviously an attorney was present during the suspect's questioning as I would assume that the parents of the suspect would have insisted an attorney be present since this is such a critical issue.He was 17 for goodness sake....not 12. He is old enough to leave home and live on his own, less than a year away from signing any legal contracts, less than a year from buying tobacco products to harm his body, and less than 4 years from buying alcohol and your telling me he may not have understood what he was doing...give me a break.
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Let's see now, the Police beat a confession out him.
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devotion Member
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I, unfortunately, don't have the comfort of believing that all seventeen year olds share the same maturity and ability to resist pressures as some may. If we went to the local high school and tested seventeen year old students for their maturity level and the ability to resist pressures, our results would cover one end of the spectrum to the other. Just because teenagers are nearing the age to be able to purchase tobacco and sign legal contracts does not prove to me that all have matured enough to understand the ramifications of signing anything put in front of them by police officers. I would imagine the pressures this kid was under were somewhat intense. Heck, I get nervous just being pulled over by the police for speeding, and I am in my 40s. Also, the cases of coerced false confessions that I have studied involved adults well over the age of 30, and these people were found to be innocent in a court of law. These people were definitely old enough to purchase tobacco and sign legal documents, but they somehow found themselves admitting to something they had not done. Without being in the suspect’s shoes and experiencing the pressures he or she was under in that exact moment of interrogation, really leaves us unqualified to prove guilt or innocence. As mentioned in my initial post, I was not stating that this suspect was coerced. I merely commented that this was a possibility, and it is a possibility. I also never stated that the police beat a confession out of the suspect. As mentioned in my original post, I must wait for all evidence to be given, not just what the police say has happened, before I can form an opinion of guilt or innocence.
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Wild H Woman Member
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devotion: you bring up some excellent points.
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devotion wrote: I, unfortunately, don't have the comfort of believing that all seventeen year olds share the same maturity and ability to resist pressures as some may. If we went to the local high school and tested seventeen year old students for their maturity level and the ability to resist pressures, our results would cover one end of the spectrum to the other. I will agree that there are cases of coersion. But if we were to test the same 17 year olds on what is right and what is wrong I think you would have the exaxt same answers.
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mamadjl40@yahoo.com Member
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yes i read it in the rnt awful isnt it
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Gunny Member 
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Why won't anyone say the name of this day care,or the owners name? Some of you seem to know.......let the rest of us in on it ! I've got grandkids here.............quit with the politically correct BS ! Last edited on Sat Aug 9th, 2008 08:11 pm by Gunny |
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