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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:24 pm
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What is permafrost?

Where was the hotest temperature on earth recorded?

What virus did scientists assemble from scratch in 2002?

What does a scatologist study?

How many types of nucleotides make up DNA?

The word "laser" is an acronym, What does it stand for?

How many mammal species have gone extinct since 1700?

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:20 pm
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An airliner can start from a dead stop when the wheels are not chocked.

When the wheels are chocked front and rear there's no way the aircraft can achieve motion either on it's own or towed.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:23 pm
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Spice wrote: What is permafrost?

Where was the hotest temperature on earth recorded?

What virus did scientists assemble from scratch in 2002?

What does a scatologist study?

How many types of nucleotides make up DNA?

The word "laser" is an acronym, What does it stand for?

How many mammal species have gone extinct since 1700?

Spice, you are just loaded with questions! I'm afraid I don't know half of these, but if I didn't have to cut grass I could look each one of them up on the computer!

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:25 pm
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FRL88 wrote: Tad2 wrote: FRL88 wrote: by the engines not being started.
No, you can chock the wheels and open the throttle wide open but the plane will not move an inch! The turbine engines must have motion before their propulsion starts to take effect! That's why you sometimes see the motorized vehicles pulling or pushing planes around an airport.


How can an airliner start from a dead stop then? some one pushing it from behind?

I think the key word in your statement wes "chock".

An airliner can start from a dead stop when the wheels are not chocked.

When the wheels are chocked front and rear there's no way the aircraft can achieve motion either on it's own or towed.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:58 pm
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Tad2 wrote: Spice wrote: What is permafrost?

Where was the hotest temperature on earth recorded?

What virus did scientists assemble from scratch in 2002?

What does a scatologist study?

How many types of nucleotides make up DNA?

The word "laser" is an acronym, What does it stand for?

How many mammal species have gone extinct since 1700?

Spice, you are just loaded with questions! I'm afraid I don't know half of these, but if I didn't have to cut grass I could look each one of them up on the computer!


Come cut my grass, I'll give you the answers.

Permafrost is ground that has been frozen for over 2 years

The hottest recorded temperature,136 degrees Fahrenheit, was recorded in Al' Aziziyah, Libya in September of 1922.

Scientists at the State University of New York at Stony Brook announced in July 2002 that they had assembled the polio virus from scratch

Scatologist study animal feces

4 types of nucleotides make up DNA?


Laser =  Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

More than 90,000 animal species have gone extent since 1700

Just for good measure, when was the first beer brewed?

The Mesopotamians first brewed beer in 7,000 BC.

When was the greatest mass extinction of life on Earth?

More than 250 million years ago, the Permian-Triassic extinction wiped out 95 percent of marine life and 70 percent of life on land, making it the greatest mass extinction in history.

 

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No, you can chock the wheels and open the throttle wide open but the plane will not move an inch! The turbine engines must have motion before their propulsion starts to take effect! That's why you sometimes see the motorized vehicles pulling or pushing planes around an airport.

But your statement says that there MUST be motion before the propulsion takes effect. there is no motion at a dead stop, so how does it begin motion if there is no propulsion? I have never seen an airliner put on a catapult, or pushed off to begin motion. again, the key word is "chocked" and that is a force to stop momentum.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:40 pm
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FRL88 wrote: No, you can chock the wheels and open the throttle wide open but the plane will not move an inch! The turbine engines must have motion before their propulsion starts to take effect! That's why you sometimes see the motorized vehicles pulling or pushing planes around an airport.

But your statement says that there MUST be motion before the propulsion takes effect. there is no motion at a dead stop, so how does it begin motion if there is no propulsion? I have never seen an airliner put on a catapult, or pushed off to begin motion. again, the key word is "chocked" and that is a force to stop momentum.


OK...If you are in the cockpit of a 747 and the wheels are not chocked in anyway, you can get enough propulsion from the engines to actually start the plane rolling...BUT.....if the wheels are chocked, it would never move an inch! The oddity here being if you chock the tires on a 747 and open it wide open you would think it would move, but ithe engines cannot move the plane until it gains some type of motion. Chocked is indeed the key word here!

People normally think that if you fired up those huge engines the plane would just take off regardless of whether or not it was chocked because of the enormous thrust of the engines, but it won't if the wheels are chocked.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:03 pm
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Tad2 wrote:
...but the engines cannot move the plane until it gains some type of motion.

This is the confusing part of the statement.  If the engines cannot move the plane until it gains some type of motion how does the plane start moving?

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 09:19 pm
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Tad2 wrote: FRL88 wrote: No, you can chock the wheels and open the throttle wide open but the plane will not move an inch! The turbine engines must have motion before their propulsion starts to take effect! That's why you sometimes see the motorized vehicles pulling or pushing planes around an airport.

But your statement says that there MUST be motion before the propulsion takes effect. there is no motion at a dead stop, so how does it begin motion if there is no propulsion? I have never seen an airliner put on a catapult, or pushed off to begin motion. again, the key word is "chocked" and that is a force to stop momentum.


OK...If you are in the cockpit of a 747 and the wheels are not chocked in anyway, you can get enough propulsion from the engines to actually start the plane rolling...BUT.....if the wheels are chocked, it would never move an inch! The oddity here being if you chock the tires on a 747 and open it wide open you would think it would move, but ithe engines cannot move the plane until it gains some type of motion. Chocked is indeed the key word here!

People normally think that if you fired up those huge engines the plane would just take off regardless of whether or not it was chocked because of the enormous thrust of the engines, but it won't if the wheels are chocked.

so your statement is misleading then. you should say that a chocked airliner won't move.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 09:58 pm
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FRL88 wrote: Tad2 wrote: FRL88 wrote: No, you can chock the wheels and open the throttle wide open but the plane will not move an inch! The turbine engines must have motion before their propulsion starts to take effect! That's why you sometimes see the motorized vehicles pulling or pushing planes around an airport.

But your statement says that there MUST be motion before the propulsion takes effect. there is no motion at a dead stop, so how does it begin motion if there is no propulsion? I have never seen an airliner put on a catapult, or pushed off to begin motion. again, the key word is "chocked" and that is a force to stop momentum.


OK...If you are in the cockpit of a 747 and the wheels are not chocked in anyway, you can get enough propulsion from the engines to actually start the plane rolling...BUT.....if the wheels are chocked, it would never move an inch! The oddity here being if you chock the tires on a 747 and open it wide open you would think it would move, but ithe engines cannot move the plane until it gains some type of motion. Chocked is indeed the key word here!

People normally think that if you fired up those huge engines the plane would just take off regardless of whether or not it was chocked because of the enormous thrust of the engines, but it won't if the wheels are chocked.

so your statement is misleading then. you should say that a chocked airliner won't move.

How can my statement be misleading? Read what I have made bold in my last post above...

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 10:01 pm
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Boys, boys, boys... does it REALLY matter if an airliner will move if the wheels are chocked???  LOL  maybe, just maybe, we've stumbled upon another "theft, or no theft" argument. :)

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 10:09 pm
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Naw...I give up the argument on the theift or no theift thing! All I know is that if someone in Wal Mart or anywhere else for that matter ever tries to search me or arrest me, and I have a receipt for my goods (and I always do) they're in deep deep sh**.....

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 10:15 pm
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Tad2 wrote: Naw...I give up the argument on the theift or no theift thing! All I know is that if someone in Wal Mart or anywhere else for that matter ever tries to search me or arrest me, and I have a receipt for my goods (and I always do) they're in deep deep sh**.....
You know what!  You have never even mentioned a receipt in our discussion!  You are unreal!

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I propose we all save our Wal-Mart receipts and chock the wheels of an airliner!  :P

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Rdnckgirl1973 wrote: Tad2 wrote: Naw...I give up the argument on the theift or no theift thing! All I know is that if someone in Wal Mart or anywhere else for that matter ever tries to search me or arrest me, and I have a receipt for my goods (and I always do) they're in deep deep sh**.....
You know what!  You have never even mentioned a receipt in our discussion!  You are unreal!


If I am 'unreal' I must be unique too! You don't pay close attention girl! Read the post below that I made yesterday....

OK Rdnckgirl...

I will take your word for it, but, I still maintain that if someone falsely accused me of stealing something inside the store, they better have me on tape showing I am conceiling it or consuming it. If I am leaving or am outside the store and I have a receipt for it, and am accused of stealing it, they're in deep sh**...!

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